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Post by xkamelx on Oct 11, 2006 18:28:53 GMT -5
Do any of you have a theory of the origin of the alien species?
Some say the Space Jockeys bio-engineered them as a biological weapon, and that the Space Jokey who crashed on LV-426 with the ship that Kane found was on a mission to deliver the eggs to an enemy planet.
I'm not sure I like that theory. I prefer to think the aliens are a natural species, discovered by the Space Jockeys. That seems a little more frightening to me; meaning that they wouldn't have to exist as an experiment gone wrong, but rather they exist out there somewhere.
As for why the eggs were on board the derelict to begin with, I have no idea. Maybe there was a stow away Facehugger who impregnated the Space Jockey with a queen, or maybe the space Jockeys were trying the same thing as Weyland-Yutami were, to capture them as bio weapons.
What do you guys think?
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Post by 0 of 0 on Oct 11, 2006 18:40:24 GMT -5
Maybe this theory can tie up with the alien vs predator movie. Let's say that the Aliens that were on the Derilect were allied with the predators. A couple hundred years ago these aliens captured and destroyed the aliens' homeplanet. While the Derilect was transporting an alien queen to plant on earth, the Queen escapes and then starts to lay eggs. Eventually the ship crashes on LV- 426. They set up they're warning and then get killed by aliens. The alien Queen probably wandered off onto the rigid land of the planet and then probably died. Hundreds of years later Ripley and her crew investigate the ship and from there the alien quadrilogy begins. This theory is plausible because it can relate to the AVP movie.
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Post by xkamelx on Oct 11, 2006 18:53:38 GMT -5
So you mean the Space Jockeys were at war with the Predators?
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Post by 0 of 0 on Oct 11, 2006 21:13:46 GMT -5
I mean that the Space Jockeys are allied w/ the Pred. They are helping them transport he alien queen.
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Post by xkamelx on Oct 11, 2006 21:28:28 GMT -5
That's a good theory as to why they were on board the derelict. Nice thinking. However, wouldn't the Predators wish to hunt the Space Jockey's as well? I don't know as much about Predators as other things. I know he made an alliance with the woman in AVP, but do they make alliances with entire species?
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Post by valderra on Oct 12, 2006 7:10:44 GMT -5
Space Jockeys? Who are the space jockeys?
Now that I learned that AvP is a prequal to the Alien movies, it gives the whole 'where are the aliens from' theory a new aspect.
I believe that perhaps the Predators knew where the aliens originated from, captured the queen and brought her to Earth, where the humans were used as hosts, and Earth was used to do their 'coming of age' ritual - that way they didn't endanger their own planet.
We also know that at the end of AvP, the queen impregnated the by then dead predator, and an alien broke through his ribcage - end of movie. Since there is so far no sequel, we don't know what happened next.
We can, however, assume that on route home, the Predators' spaceship crashlanded on LV-426, because the alien on board went on a killing spree.
The rest is history...
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Post by xkamelx on Oct 12, 2006 22:06:32 GMT -5
The Space Jokey is the dead humanoid on the derelict that the Nostromo crew finds in Alien before Kane finds the eggs.
If AVP decides the origin of the aliens, I really hope they do not mess it up, and give us a retarded origin. There is a chance that AVP may not be 100% canon to the alien universe, I've yet to find an official word on that.
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Post by valderra on Oct 13, 2006 7:08:00 GMT -5
The Space Jokey is the dead humanoid on the derelict that the Nostromo crew finds in Alien before Kane finds the eggs. Oh that one. I keep forgetting about him. LOL I still stand by what I said. I think that the predators knew where the aliens' homeworld was, captured the queen, took her to Earth to lay eggs, etc etc. And since LV-426 was not overran by aliens, we can safely assume that this was not their homeworld, but it is very likely that the predators' ship crashlanded there (maybe one of them was then the Space Jockey?), and that alien that burst through the predator on the ship could have been another queen. After all, a queen has to come from somewhere.
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Post by xkamelx on Oct 13, 2006 15:40:50 GMT -5
I agree that LV-426 was not their homeworld. Even in Aliens Ripley says in the meeting with company officials that they were not indigenous to the planet.
Company Man: "Is there any species like this hostile organism on LV-426?"
Company Woman: "No, it's a rock, no indigenous life."
Ripley: "Did IQ's just drop sharply while I was away? Maam, I already said, that it was not indigenous, it was a derelict spacecraft, it was an alien ship, it was not from there, do you get it?"
It's also interesting to note that the man asked if there was any species like the organism on the planet, like it's possible there may be non human species there. That along with the no surprise to see the dead Space Jockey by the Nostromo crew in the derelict leads me to believe they at least have discovered life off Earth before, just don't know what kind.
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Post by 0 of 0 on Oct 28, 2006 14:21:47 GMT -5
That's a good theory as to why they were on board the derelict. Nice thinking. However, wouldn't the Predators wish to hunt the Space Jockey's as well? I don't know as much about Predators as other things. I know he made an alliance with the woman in AVP, but do they make alliances with entire species? Its plausible that the space jockeys were more technologically advanced then the predators... so they became allies instead of the predators trying to hunt a more advanced species. It would be a futile attempt.
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Post by xkamelx on Oct 28, 2006 16:47:20 GMT -5
But wouldn't that be fun for the Predators, the challenge of over coming the space jockeys?
I dunno, but have found rumors of interest in Alien 5 and 6, Alien 5 being the Space jockeys dropping eggs on Earth.
Alien 6 either being Ripley going to the Space jockey homeworld to stop it all, or being a prequel of the space jockeys bioengineering the aliens.
I still don't like the idea of bioengineering. It's much more spooky to think they exist as natural animals.
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Post by 0 of 0 on Oct 28, 2006 19:46:41 GMT -5
It could have been an experiment that went wrong. When they created them they were used as a weapon of mass destruction. I have to agree though that it would be better if they were natural...
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Post by zdnexus on Nov 5, 2006 16:42:50 GMT -5
When the ship was diverted by a signal to the planet where the eggs were and later when all hell broke loose, the android tells the crew that the eggs had to be recovered. In the third film Ripley commits suicide because she has alien inside her. For some reason someone on Earth wants the Alliens - for what purpose? The ultimate biological weapon. They even waited 200 years in the fourth movie. Cloned Ripley the Alien -human hybrid is sucked out of the ship and the ship is crash landing on Earth. Is there some kind of endless war going on Earth that Aliens are needed, what is the purpose an Alien or its hybrid. Why in the first film the android revealed that the signal had to be answered. Who sent the signal, who or what was sending it? There too many unanswered questions.
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Post by xkamelx on Nov 6, 2006 17:27:04 GMT -5
When the ship was diverted by a signal to the planet where the eggs were and later when all hell broke loose, the android tells the crew that the eggs had to be recovered. In the third film Ripley commits suicide because she has alien inside her. For some reason someone on Earth wants the Alliens - for what purpose? The ultimate biological weapon. They even waited 200 years in the fourth movie. Cloned Ripley the Alien -human hybrid is sucked out of the ship and the ship is crash landing on Earth. Is there some kind of endless war going on Earth that Aliens are needed, what is the purpose an Alien or its hybrid. Why in the first film the android revealed that the signal had to be answered. Who sent the signal, who or what was sending it? There too many unanswered questions. There's some debate on whether or not the Nostromo answered the distress signal out of protocol (answer all signals) or of the company knew that the aliens were involved. We know the company wanted to capture some aliens to for their bio-weapons department, but as to if they knew there were aliens in that planet we don't know. I don't think Earth was at war with anyone, I think the company just wanted the aliens to sell to the military to make a profit. The original signal was sent by the dead Space Jockey in the derelict space craft. Remember the large dead humanoid that they found, and noticed his rib cage was bent out wards? I would think he sent the signal after some aliens breached his security, but died long before Ripley and the Nostromo came. And the human/alien hybrid was just a mistake, or consequence of the cloning I think. I do not think the scientists had planned that at all.
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Post by avisto on Feb 2, 2009 14:26:19 GMT -5
I never liked the Predators being a part of the Alien franchise. I like to think the Aliens came from their OWN planet, they weren't created as a biological experiment. They were taken from their natural captivity where their population was kept in check by other more superior life forms, on their planet, they had prey, it wasn't their planet, then the Jockies (Malakak) came along, and took them out of their planet... then they escaped... and there was only prey. You have to remember, to all aliens, all lifeforms are prey, even Yautja (Predators). I think the Yautja captured the aliens to hunt, then, like WY, they escaped.
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