FantasyLover
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Post by FantasyLover on Dec 1, 2004 1:08:11 GMT -5
Well, the generally accepted definition for fantasy is a story with midieval characteristics, magic, and adventure, with a large dosage of imagination. However, everybody may not agree with this. What do you think a sotry needs to have to be considered a fantasy? And what qualities in a fantasy do you enjoy the most?
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Post by ConqueringWolf on Dec 1, 2004 22:27:31 GMT -5
well..generally I do believe Fantasy deals in magic...elves...middle earth....strange lands....and stuff like that.....because most everything else if it has technology....i consider that sci-fi. So it's kind of like technology/non-technology is the line in the sand.
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Post by Orpheus on Dec 9, 2004 0:31:20 GMT -5
My deffinition for science fiction is anything that is impossible, or cannot be explained through science portraied as fact or correct. Therefore I believe fantasy to just be a sub genre of science fiction. My deffintion for fantasy is for the story to revolve around untangible supernatural things(ie magic, ghosts).
So I believe that Starwars is more fantasy than just science fiction. Same with Dune. However Things like Star Trek are completely science fiction.
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Post by Ðreamreaver on Jan 5, 2005 0:34:38 GMT -5
Well this thread is a bit old but I still found it interesting.
Basically I believe that fantasy can include anything not bounded by the rules of reality. Oftentimes the medieval setting is used for fantasy but I think the genre goes beyond the boundaries of elves, goblins, wizards, and dragons. While those are typical fantasy archetypes they are not the only things that make up fantasy.
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Post by FantasyLover on Jan 5, 2005 1:37:55 GMT -5
Well this thread is a bit old but I still found it interesting. Basically I believe that fantasy can include anything not bounded by the rules of reality. Oftentimes the medieval setting is used for fantasy but I think the genre goes beyond the boundaries of elves, goblins, wizards, and dragons. While those are typical fantasy archetypes they are not the only things that make up fantasy. I could also say the same thing for sci-fi. So what is it that separates the two?
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Post by Ðreamreaver on Jan 5, 2005 10:25:49 GMT -5
I could also say the same thing for sci-fi. So what is it that separates the two? I think the main thing that separates them are the difference between the focus on technology in sci-fi as opposed to "magic" for lack of a better term in fantasy.
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Post by Callista Moonfire on Feb 3, 2005 21:30:53 GMT -5
Well Fantasy is just fiction that involves mythological or magical events while Sci-Fi mainly aims towards techonology and things that are in the universe or future. So it's kinda easy to tell them apart when you look at what your working with.
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Post by oblivion on Feb 25, 2005 3:01:55 GMT -5
I think a number of authors/series are a little hard to categorize.
What would you call the Blue Adept series by Piers Anthony?
What about the Darkover Series by Marion Zimmer Bradley?
How about Glory Road by Robert Heinlein? Most of his stuff is hard science fiction, but Glory Road was qualitatively different. So was Number of the Beast, though there was a lot more science to it than Glory Road.
C. J. Cherryth also writes in both genres and sometimes combines them.
Same thing with Tanith Lee. Some of what she writes is definitely fantasy, some is definitely science fiction, and some is somewhere in between.
Most of what I think of as fantasy has a strong flavor of "magic" if not outright "swords and sorcery". Granted the phenomena could be explained in science fiction terms instead of fantasy terms, but the author chooses not to. So I guess it's the author's intent that makes the "what if" world or universe fantasy instead of science fiction.
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Post by syborg on Mar 6, 2005 17:16:18 GMT -5
The world has been overrun by Aliens. Predators are out to get them. Humanity releases the Skynet computer virus, it was hoped with all out nuclear war all the Aliens and Predators would wiped out. The Aliens and Predators had now a bigger battlefield. Humanity's last line of defence were the Terminators, led by John Connor. The Predators were suffering one setback after another and Aliens were dying like flies. The Predator elders decide use time travel so as to end John Connor. Although the Predators were suffering major losses they had captured some Terminators, re-engiineered and reprogrammed them so that they fight humans. Some of the Terminators are sent back in time. Sending a Predator was too dangerous - send a machine do the job. Terminators could not be relied on initially so a human was sent then Terminators could be trusted, the Predators kept upgrading the Terminators.. When the peace is finally restored, Terminators are junked. The cripple in the war were turned half man half machine entities., they were called Robocops, they killed all the evil Terminators, wiped out the Aliens and the Predators. Then a new city was builty policed by Robocops.
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Post by FantasyLover on Mar 6, 2005 18:54:58 GMT -5
Where did you mean to post this?
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Post by syborg on Apr 9, 2005 11:31:11 GMT -5
My post was posted it in the wrong forum - as for what is fantasy for me - it is everything which nothing logical or sensible about. What happened earlier has nothing whatsoever with happpens later - fantasy for me is complete chaos ;D
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Post by oblivion on Apr 9, 2005 20:13:27 GMT -5
One movie that is very hard for me to categorize is "Matrix".
At first it seemed like SF, though the character names seemed to hint that there would be at least an urban-fantasy undercurrent. But, as the first movie progressed, and especially in later movies more and more motifs that I associate with fantasy were introduced.
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Post by Peter on Jul 29, 2005 4:06:37 GMT -5
A lot of the time sci-fi and fantasy cross over. For example, Michael Moorcock's Eternal Champion series crosses over a lot as do some of Raymond E Feist's books. I think fantasy books are any books that have things like magic, more races than just humans, alternate worlds etc and science fantasy books have science that we do not have and/or are set in the future or other world.
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Post by Raven on Aug 6, 2005 3:01:54 GMT -5
I would say The Terminator, Matrix, and video games like Final Fantasy are fantasy. Fantasy to me is something stylized and mystical. Something that's very unorthodox and can't really happen, but it's possible in life, just not in the same ways. Something like Hercules would be fantasy with creatures and other themes from long ago. Fantasy is something I'm quite fond of.
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Post by elspethndarkwind on Aug 22, 2005 20:50:32 GMT -5
my definition of fantasy is pretty much anything to do with magic and other lands. techonology and starships say sci-fi to me but otherwise it's pretty much a free reign! from lotr to hp to green riders i'm open to anything but non fiction
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