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Post by QMan on Oct 25, 2003 9:08:10 GMT -5
Well, for me, its gonna be mostly TNG.
The best, for me, was 'The Best of Both Worlds'. I like the theme's of war and betrayal in it.
Also, the name is escaping me right now, I think it was 'Beloved', where Data creates his daughter, Lall (sp?)
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Post by xkamelx on Oct 25, 2003 14:55:31 GMT -5
Those are good picks Q. I am kind of undecided. I feel TNG was the best series, they did an excellent job of bringing life to each character, from Conselor Troi's love affair with chocolate, to Data and Gordi's friendship. Each character had a background and a personality all to thier own. However I seem to enjoy Voyager more, perhaps mostly due to the comen theme of temporal time travel, and encountering other strange anomolies as such. I also like the idof Voager being straed in the Delta Quadrent, as most of the great storys in life is about our heros adventures tring to simply get home. In any of the series. my favorite ones have to do with disturbances in our Space Time Contiuum, I guess it's the science nerd in me. For TNG, some of myvorite episodes include; - Taperstly (w/Q)
- Lower Decks (w/ the ensigns)
- Phantasm (Data has nightamares that effects his bahavior)
- All Good Things
I could go on, but I can't remember the name of most of them. I think one of the funniest scence in TNG came from Phantasm. Data asked Worf to watch over Spot because he was afraid he would hurt him in one of his blackouts. Data tells Worf; "Spot will need to be fed, he prefers feline suppliment number 25. You also have to talk to him. You have to tell him (in a soft baby like voice) he's a pretty cat, he's a good cat. Lt Worf has his custom look of digust and distent: "I WILL feed him. Data repys seemingly embarresed; "That should be enough" LOL I could just see Worf telling a cat the he is pretty. I'm not sure why thats so funny, but it cracks me up to this very day. ~Myke
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Post by DeepSPace9 on Oct 26, 2003 9:42:08 GMT -5
Best of Both Worlds parts 1 & 2 for Next Generation- The music definitely made the episodes that much better. Way more detail given to the Borg and showing how the borg assimilate people. Such a shame that Voyager ruined the Borg after this episode.
The Trouble with Tribbles for the Original- This was by far the best original concept for the original series. Also City on the Edge of Forever for original series as well.- still the most preferred episode of the original series. To show that love still conquers all even in the future, where mankind is so much more evolved, proves that you cannot overcome the heart.
Trials and Tribbleations for Deep Space 9- the Forrest Gump effects made that episode great. And when you watch the original episode that they gumped into, you can see how great it was, because you can actually see where they morphed them into and it fit perfectly.
End Game for Voyager- the climatic ending where you were not sure whether they made it home or not(even though you knew it would occur) was great. Would have been better if they hadn't made it home that way though.
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Post by QMan on Oct 26, 2003 16:32:42 GMT -5
I was never that big on Voyager myself. I always thought that, while they had a vast potential for stories, they always relied to heavily on the 'We must follow the Prime Directive' angle.
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Post by DeepSPace9 on Oct 26, 2003 16:50:21 GMT -5
They had a few episodes where they did violate the "prime directive" though.
Remember they did give the Hirogen holodeck technology, which came back to hurt Voyager later on, they came to the aid of the Talaxians on the asteroid in the 7th season(I believe the 2nd to last episode), even though the Prime Directive said they had to stay out of it.
They also violated the Prime Directive by forging an alliance with the Borg at the beginning of the 4th season. Although I hate the fact that they only dealt with that for 3 episodes and then dropped it, when they had a whole season's worth of potential storylines.
There's alot more times they violated it, but it wasn't as often as I would have liked it either though.
I would have thought they would willingly give up something to the Hirogens to gain access to the network that they had used to communicate with Starfleet for the first time.
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Post by xkamelx on Oct 26, 2003 19:01:05 GMT -5
Even on The Delta Quadrent, The USS Voyager is supposed to follow the prime directive, even if they do break it a few times. Even Cpt Picard broke the prime directive on several occasions.
The Prime directive is a follows. .. .
As the right of each sentient species to live in accordance with its normal cultural evolution is considered sacred, no Starfleet personnel may interfere with the normal and healthy development of alien life and culture. Such interference includes introducing superior knowledge, strength, or technology to a world whose society is incapable of handling such advantages wisely. Starfleet personnel may not violate this Prime Directive, even to save their lives and/or their ship, unless they are acting to right an earlier violation or an accidental contamination of said culture. This directive takes precedence over any and all other considerations, and carries with it the highest moral obligation.
However there are times when it is impossable to follow the prime directive. For instance when Weasly Crusher was on trial, and Picard had to break the prime directive to save him, although I'm not sure if Starfleet would justify that.
~Myke
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Post by xkamelx on Nov 24, 2003 16:48:53 GMT -5
Something rare happened this afternoon. I turned on spike TV to watch TNG and it was an episode I've never seen before. I only caught the last 12 minutes or so, but from what I gather Picard was hurt bad in the beginning and was gonna die untill Q came and gave him a choice to go back and relive his life to make different choices.
Apperantly whatever choices Picard made had him return to his present as a leutinent or something, untill Q made him admit that Picard was wrong, and changed things back. I cant beleive I hadent seen this before.
Does anyone know the name of this episode and know what actually happened?
Thanks, ~Myke
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Post by SciFi on Nov 25, 2003 2:40:02 GMT -5
I remember the episode. Picard has a bad heart due to an incident that occurred back in his academy days when he was hot tempered. He got stabbed in the heart when he got into a fight. In the present, he was having heart problems again and he regretted that he was so brash back then. Q gave him an opportunity to relive the event and Picard diplomaticly avoided the altercation, but in doing so changed his life forever. Without that brash streak, Starfleet never considered him leadership quality and he never amounted to much.
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Post by DeepSPace9 on Nov 25, 2003 18:57:31 GMT -5
The episode is from the 6th season and is titled Tapestry.
Another good episode from TNG has got to be Measure of a Man from the second season. Where Data has to fight to be classified as a living being.
Voyager almost went the same route with the Holographic doctor but they never finished it, instead said he could stop his holonovel from being released, but he isn't considered a life form.
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Post by xkamelx on Nov 25, 2003 20:17:39 GMT -5
I remember Measure of a man DS9. Isnt that the one where Starflet want to disassemble Data, and Riker was forced into being hte prosocuting attorney, and Picard was his defense attonrey?
~Myke
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Post by DeepSPace9 on Nov 25, 2003 20:56:55 GMT -5
Yes it was. To me that was the moment when Data was accepted by both Picard and Riker on the series.
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