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Post by syborg on Mar 25, 2006 17:42:07 GMT -5
If ever there is another Star Trek TV series again, I would prefer to see the next star ship whatever it is called to have the upgrades which Voyager acquired when the show was over.
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Post by 0 of 0 on Sept 9, 2006 18:36:50 GMT -5
Ya, that would be a good idea. The ship can have borg weapons and any other systems it aquired in the Delta Quadrant...Ablative Armour. Ablative armour would make the federation alot more powerful than they ever were before. The only thing I don't understand is in t he Movie "Nemisis" the Enterprise E is not modified with the tehcnology.
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Post by alyeska on Oct 5, 2006 18:20:37 GMT -5
It would certainly be a good idea. The upgrades would certainly help the ships and crews.
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Post by Tobbles on Jan 17, 2007 15:58:20 GMT -5
I don't think Starfleet would implement the upgrades until the upgrades occurred in the old time line. This will make sure it doesn't interfere with the temporal directive and alter the balance of power.
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Post by xkamelx on Jan 19, 2007 1:00:34 GMT -5
I don't think Starfleet would implement the upgrades until the upgrades occurred in the old time line. This will make sure it doesn't interfere with the temporal directive and alter the balance of power. I agree with that. Implementing the upgrades would be a violation of the temporal directive. However, I could see a group like Section 31 attempting to implement them.
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Post by ConqueringWolf on Jan 23, 2007 7:43:14 GMT -5
I think the ships have actually been upgraded, the last episode of Voyager, if I remember correctly as it's been a while, the future Janeway said something about her ship and the fleet having been upgraded with Borg technology. I don't really think it would affect the timeline much, most of the upgrades didn't really come from the future so much as just from the Borg.
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Post by Tobbles on Jan 23, 2007 12:52:50 GMT -5
I think the ships have actually been upgraded, the last episode of Voyager, if I remember correctly as it's been a while, the future Janeway said something about her ship and the fleet having been upgraded with Borg technology. I don't really think it would affect the time line much, most of the upgrades didn't really come from the future so much as just from the Borg. Yeah but isn't she talking about the future which is about 17 years ahead. That is the correct time line but once they start implementing technology now that will be 17 years earlier than it should of been. Therefore tampering with the time line even further than they did.
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Post by ConqueringWolf on Jan 25, 2007 12:33:17 GMT -5
But then the original question becomes a non factor then really. I am sure if they made a new series that it would take place at least 17 years in the future where those ships already have the Voyager upgrades that we saw at the end of the series. So having those upgrades in a new series should be just a matter of fact.
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Post by zdnexus on Feb 24, 2007 16:21:49 GMT -5
Does this mean when Voyager will have be told to return to the Delta Quadrant because they have violated the Temporal Prime Directive and return 17 years later? Or will they accept Voyager as it is . When Voyager is in the dockyard all the upgrades shared be incorporated in Starfleet ships because they are important ways to defeating the Borg. The biological agent in Icheb's blood will also be accepted as important weapon in destroying the Borg. In sharp contrast to Stargate Sg1 new technology was readily accepted and used whereas in Star Trek this never happens - does the Federation think its technology is far superior to everyone else's and does not need adopt new thing to make the ships batter and safer?
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Post by Tobbles on Feb 24, 2007 16:40:38 GMT -5
Does this mean when Voyager will have be told to return to the Delta Quadrant because they have violated the Temporal Prime Directive and return 17 years later? Or will they accept Voyager as it is . When Voyager is in the dockyard all the upgrades shared be incorporated in Starfleet ships because they are important ways to defeating the Borg. The biological agent in Icheb's blood will also be accepted as important weapon in destroying the Borg. In sharp contrast to Stargate Sg1 new technology was readily accepted and used whereas in Star Trek this never happens - does the Federation think its technology is far superior to everyone else's and does not need adopt new thing to make the ships batter and safer? No course they won't send Voyager back. The reason why in Stargate they readily accept alien technology because they don't have any and there are serious threats that they just can't defend themselves. With Star Trek they realise that technology from the future can be helpful but altering the timeline from what it should be isn't there ideal situation. Starfleet is all about not interfering with stuff, be it aliens of the time line.
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Post by zdnexus on Feb 26, 2007 16:09:16 GMT -5
But Voyager could not have returned if the Temporal Prime Directive was not broken, it would have stayed where it was. During the time Voyager was in the Delta Quadrant the Doctor went through significant changes that ended up writing his own novel, which the Federation accepted, alhough it was written by a hologram. Admiral Janeway violated the Temporal Prime Directive and Captain Janeway had a choie between the ship home earlierthan she would normally would have or stay where she is. She choose to escape the Delta Quadrant with the technology which the Admiral provided. If Captain Janeway decides not to tell Starfleet how she got the tecnnology she could easily say it was something she found in the Delta Quadrant, swearing the entire crew to secrecy. The Federation would have accepted it. But this is all open to debate. But I support the idea that Starfleet upgrade all its ships, make them more powerful than before and continue to do so.
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Post by Tobbles on Feb 26, 2007 16:21:22 GMT -5
If you were in the Delta Quadrant wouldn't you go home knowing that members of your crew will die including some close friends. I think Janeway would tell how she got the technology rather than lying.
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Post by zdnexus on Mar 5, 2007 16:40:43 GMT -5
So Voyager has the technology and goes to the dockyard the crew is safe. What is Starfleet going with an anti-Borg starship. Make it a part of the museum or benefit from the technology it has?
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Post by Tobbles on Mar 5, 2007 17:09:26 GMT -5
So Voyager has the technology and goes to the dockyard the crew is safe. What is Starfleet going with an anti-Borg starship. Make it a part of the museum or benefit from the technology it has? A most difficult question. I wouldn't make a perfectly good ship a museum. The technology would of course benefit starfleet but it would have it problems. Such as enemies getting their hands and upgrading their ships.
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Post by zdnexus on Mar 6, 2007 16:02:10 GMT -5
So Starfleet should upgrades before everyone does.
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