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Post by Kmylove on Jun 21, 2007 12:45:15 GMT -5
A thread on PBS gave me this idea: someone was claiming that MySpace should be shut down because it is guilty of many murders. I say you can't blame a site for the people that use it. I don't think Myspace is to blame for the fact that people so naive as to give out personal details to complete strangers. Such a thing could happen on any social site, or on any forum for a matter of fact. Who do you think would be to blame for such things: the site owners, the victims, parents? I'd like to hear your views.
and let's not make it into a myspace is bad, some other stuff is better thread
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 21, 2007 13:08:42 GMT -5
Hmm, I'd better think about this one...
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Post by willen on Jun 21, 2007 19:37:03 GMT -5
I say it's the user's falt. It's their decision to post it online. If it's some young person still living at home, their parents should always check on the kind of info that they're posting online.
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Post by Mara on Jun 21, 2007 19:46:50 GMT -5
I'd say the user, in most cases. But there are a lot of young people out there who have parents with no idea what their kids are doing on the internet. So sometimes I also blame them for not paying better attention to them.
You know, there are sites, like this one, where you have to be 13 to join. Some kids lie so they can join sites like this or like MySpace. Or there are ones where if you are under 13 you need a parent's permission. How many kids actually ask their parents?
And when you have little 12-14 years olds running around wild without supervision in the internet, of course, they're gonna get into trouble because most, not all, I'm sure, don't know any better or don't have any common sense. They think because it's the internet and there's no face-to-face that it doesn't really count. It's not real.
But it is when some crazed maniac tries to show up at your door asking for your kid. I wonder if the parents take notice when their child is kidnapped because they thought they were meeting a "buddy."
Besides the kids and the parents, it is also the "killers"' fault because they believe that they are talking to adult and legal women. But they have a lot more problems than having no self control so that's another topic, lol.
I suppose I can mention this as well.. there is a TV ad going on around here about a young girl who posts her photo online. It was just one thing.. and then she tries to remove it.. but she can't because it is everywhere and even strangers recognize her. Once you put something online--a photo, a description, a name, etc. You can't remove it.
So you have to think carefully before you put something online because you have no idea who'll be able to see it later.
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Post by Kmylove on Jun 22, 2007 0:48:17 GMT -5
Willen, Mara, I agree with you . Mara, the guy that posted the thread mentioned that a victim was a 8 year old kid. To me it seems illogical that such a child has been allowed to use MySpace at all, and it proves that parents aren't careful what their children do online. That's why I think it's not right to blame any site for what happens because what its users do.
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 22, 2007 5:16:00 GMT -5
Well, after much thinking, first off, parents must ensure that their kids know about online safety and the Dos & Don'ts of the World Wide Web, and also they must make sure that their offspring don't visit any dodgy sites. As for social sites like forums, those places usually have age limits, so all that needs doing is for the administrator and moderators to follow the rules. Then, if the individual is a teenager, they need to make sure that they're not amongst dodgy people. Fortunately most aren't but they tend to hang around places where anonimity isn't too widespread. So in the end, if something happens, I think who gets the blame should be considered on a case-by-case basis really.
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Post by Kmylove on Jun 22, 2007 9:15:58 GMT -5
As for social sites like forums, those places usually have age limits, so all that needs doing is for the administrator and moderators to follow the rules. Unfortunately the edgy problem is that anyone can lie about their age with very much ease in order to get into a forum or a site which requires an age limit. And unfortunately there is no way in verifing if a person is lying about their age. Such a system would really make a difference though it would be impossible to make (at least in my view)
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Post by Mara on Jun 22, 2007 17:56:11 GMT -5
Willen, Mara, I agree with you . Mara, the guy that posted the thread mentioned that a victim was a 8 year old kid. To me it seems illogical that such a child has been allowed to use MySpace at all, and it proves that parents aren't careful what their children do online. That's why I think it's not right to blame any site for what happens because what its users do. Exactly. I guess I went on a little rant... But thinking on this.. I do think some of these sites need to provide a little more privacy settings. Or to make sure some of these kids use them. There are safe ways to use these networking sites, however, many kids just don't set up any privacy settings and let everyone in the world see their profiles.
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Post by Shiro on Jun 22, 2007 21:17:31 GMT -5
A thread on PBS gave me this idea: someone was claiming that MySpace should be shut down because it is guilty of many murders. [...] The person who claimed this used very humorous logic. This statement is about the same as saying that a restaurant should be closed down because some murderers met their victims there. I can't say much about the issue outside of that comment. I haven't kept up with what is going on within MySpace.
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 23, 2007 6:04:56 GMT -5
Willen, Mara, I agree with you . Mara, the guy that posted the thread mentioned that a victim was a 8 year old kid. To me it seems illogical that such a child has been allowed to use MySpace at all, and it proves that parents aren't careful what their children do online. That's why I think it's not right to blame any site for what happens because what its users do. Exactly. I guess I went on a little rant... But thinking on this.. I do think some of these sites need to provide a little more privacy settings. Or to make sure some of these kids use them. There are safe ways to use these networking sites, however, many kids just don't set up any privacy settings and let everyone in the world see their profiles. Perhaps those sites could have it so that if their software detects that a person is under a certain age, their profile is set to private?
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Post by Mara on Jun 25, 2007 15:09:47 GMT -5
Yeah.. if only there was a way to detect if a user is a certain age.
But like we said... it's easy to lie about your age.
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