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Post by xkamelx on Nov 29, 2004 10:03:56 GMT -5
What is the universe? In the fact vs fiction thread, I just mentioned the universe was infinate in my opinion. But why?
How could something have always been here, always will be here, and is infinate in distance. Why is it here?
If it's always been here, it has came from no where, but my mind keeps asking where did it come from. Exluding Earth, there is the universe, it's out there.
It seems to me that nothing would make more sense, and be more logical then a universe existing. Why is it here? Why does it exist?
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Post by Tobbles on Nov 29, 2004 10:09:31 GMT -5
What i want to know is when did The Univers start. It can't just appear and just this second the universe could dispear sort of so this could me my last minute. It really makes you think how stable this universe and we are. Not very. We have no control to what happens in this universe. This is quite depressing post but its true.
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Post by xkamelx on Nov 29, 2004 10:15:52 GMT -5
I have to believe the universe itself, has always existed. Matter and energy cannot be created, it can be transformed between earch other, but it cannot be created. Therefore I can only conclude the universe has always been, and always will be.
Matter, like out galaxies, planets, ect, they may have been srpung and formed through the big bang, but the universe was always here.
I image a vast eternal void of nothing, dark, empty space. The the big band happened, and the galaxies, plaets, nabulas, stars, ect all formed over billions of years, and that is the universe we know. Beyond the reachs of the oldest galaxies and such, is again the enternal void of empty space.
I think our our known universe as a cluster. This may be the only cluster, or there could be a an eternal series of clusters out there, all stemming from their own big bang. They are likely so far apart, something like 999,999,999,000,0009 light years, that we will never detect them.
That's how I see it anyway.
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Post by ConqueringWolf on Nov 29, 2004 10:17:28 GMT -5
The human mind is incapable of truly grasping the concept of inifinity because we exist in a linear timeline. it is possible the universe could have always existed and there is no beginning nor an end.
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Post by xkamelx on Nov 29, 2004 10:21:16 GMT -5
The human mind is incapable of truly grasping the concept of inifinity because we exist in a linear timeline. it is possible the universe could have always existed and there is no beginning nor an end. That's what I believe, because I cannot see how it could have an end, or a birth. Without it, only nothing would exist, and what is nothing? Impossible I believe.
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Post by timewarp on Jan 26, 2005 15:43:51 GMT -5
The big bang theory isn't sound. What happens when a giant star collapses and implodes? RIght, a black hole. So what do you think would happen if you took all the matter in our universe, and condensed it into a single point? The same thing. I think that the center of our universe contains a white hole. A white hole is the opposite of a black hole. It is where the matter from a black hole escapes. At the singularity, gravity becomes so intense, that it causes a rift in the fabric of space. In essence, creating a wormhole. At the other side of the wormhole, matter escapes. But it escapes as hydrogen, because the gravity literally shreds the atomic bonds that make denser materials. After awhile, a black hole starts to die, because all the matter that makes it up will have escaped through the white hole. With no more gravity to keep the wormhole stable, it too, collapses.
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Post by shadowcat101 on Feb 7, 2005 14:07:31 GMT -5
they're always going on about how the universe is expanding right? so something must have happened to start that expansion. i guess "the big bang" is as good as they can come up with so far........... you could go with god snapped his fingers ;D, (that one i don't believe for a second)
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Post by timewarp on Feb 7, 2005 16:06:03 GMT -5
they're always going on about how the universe is expanding right? so something must have happened to start that expansion. i guess "the big bang" is as good as they can come up with so far........... you could go with god snapped his fingers ;D, (that one i don't believe for a second) As I said before, a white hole at the center of the universe would do that, too. It throws things out at an incredible rate. And the reason for all the matter being hydrogen would be because the gravity of the black hole at the other end pulls everything apart into up and down quarks, and from that, hydrogen forms first.
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Post by lospud on Mar 23, 2005 15:44:12 GMT -5
What is the universe? In the fact vs fiction thread, I just mentioned the universe was infinate in my opinion. But why? How could something have always been here, always will be here, and is infinate in distance. Why is it here? If it's always been here, it has came from no where, but my mind keeps asking where did it come from. Exluding Earth, there is the universe, it's out there. It seems to me that nothing would make more sense, and be more logical then a universe existing. Why is it here? Why does it exist? I've also wondered about the begining of the universe from the way everyone talks about it its as though its always been here but where did the matter come from origionally that made the universe take form? I guess its just another one of thos un- answerable questions
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Post by timewarp on Mar 24, 2005 8:58:28 GMT -5
I've also wondered about the begining of the universe from the way everyone talks about it its as though its always been here but where did the matter come from origionally that made the universe take form? I guess its just another one of thos un- answerable questions That is another problem with having a beginning to the universe. Marrer an energy cannot be created or destroyed. This is why I prefer the white hole theory. In that theory, matter and energy do not have to be created. It is an endless loop.
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Post by syborg on Jun 30, 2005 12:03:11 GMT -5
The strange thing is there are two very different aspects of the universe the presence of absolute cold empty, dark space. The other is the presence of planets and hot bright gigantic balls called suns and stars. Each of these aspects are extreme opposites of eachother.
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