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Post by xkamelx on May 24, 2004 16:03:54 GMT -5
from www.space.comIf you've ever wondered how big the universe is, you're not alone. Astronomers have long pondered this, too, and they've had a hard time figuring it out. Now an estimate has been made, and it’s a whopper.
The universe is at least 156 billion light-years wide.
In the new study, researchers examined primordial radiation imprinted on the cosmos. Among their conclusions is that it is less likely that there is some crazy cosmic "hall of mirrors" that would cause one object to be visible in two locations. And they've ruled out the idea that we could peer deep into space and time and see our own planet in its youth.
First, let's see why the size is a number you've never heard of before.
Complete StoryInteresting, but this always confuses me. When they speak of the size of the universe, are they implying that the size is equaled to the objects in space, such as galaxies, and that once we come to the end of the objects formed by the big bang, there is infinate empty space, or are they implying that once one comes to the end of the universe, it stops, and thier is no way to continue any further? I cannot see how space can come to an end, as there is always something ahead in the distance, I believe it to be infinate.
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Post by valderra on May 24, 2004 16:59:56 GMT -5
Strange that scientists should know how big the universe is but still don´t know exactly how many planets there are in our own solar system - considering there are always new ones to be discovered. My guess is that all this is just guess works - like most things - and not to be taken literary.
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Post by voyager on May 24, 2004 18:02:17 GMT -5
The new planets discovered past Pluto I doubt are actually planets. Hell I actually believe Pluto was a captured moon myself that slowly broke away, but still maintains its orbit somewhat. Its odd that Neptune and Pluto flip flop positions all the time.
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Post by Xantos Shado (Palsh Kodek) on May 24, 2004 18:07:22 GMT -5
some day here when i have more time i'd like to start a creation vs. evolution argument(intelligent not heated one) and a big bang(or waht ever else you believe{i guess you know where i stand now) versus creation arguement.
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Post by xkamelx on May 24, 2004 19:04:00 GMT -5
I'd prefer religion not be debated on Temporal Reality, as those types of debates usually end up with someone being offended. I'm not going to say it isnt allowed, but if it is ever debated, I'll be watching the thread closely, and close it at the first sign of getting out of hand. I tend to seek more scientific facts myself, but that's besides the point. As for the universe, I still don't understand if they believe it is infinate, or they are saying space just simply stops at one point.
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Post by voyager on May 24, 2004 20:21:41 GMT -5
Well the only way to prove it is to send a probe out to the end of the universe, but it would take so long to reach the end that it would be like V-ger communicating with the Enterprise in The Motion Picture. The communications would be so outdated that no one would know if it was getting a transmission.
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Post by ZERO on May 25, 2004 2:55:16 GMT -5
Damn, 165 million light years. That's a helluva lot. Oke, 1 light year = 300 000 kilometers per second. That's a total of
165 000 000 x 300 000 =
I can't be stuffed answering it.
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Post by valderra on May 25, 2004 3:30:10 GMT -5
I'd prefer religion not be debated on Temporal Reality, as those types of debates usually end up with someone being offended. I was just going to say the same thing. We all have different opinions and views and unfortunately, we will never be able to come together and discuss them peacefully and without getting heated. I know what I believe in but I don´t force it onto others just as I don´t want others to try and convince me that their believes are the only true ones.
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Post by xkamelx on May 25, 2004 12:46:13 GMT -5
I think thats the exact problem with them, people live thier entire lives for thier beliefs, believe in them so passionitly, that it's all to easy too become offended, and I've yet to see one person give in to his/her debators side.
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Post by valderra on May 25, 2004 14:53:57 GMT -5
I think thats the exact problem with them, people live thier entire lives for thier beliefs, believe in them so passionitly, that it's all to easy too become offended, and I've yet to see one person give in to his/her debators side. Huh? What is the problem? You talking to me? Huh? LOL In case you misunderstood - I am open to any religion and believe that anyone should be allowed to believe in what they want. I just don´t like people like those Jehova´s Witnesses come to my door and try to persuade me to convert and join their group - that is just an example.
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Post by xkamelx on May 25, 2004 16:41:12 GMT -5
Agreed ;D
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Post by voyager on May 25, 2004 21:25:52 GMT -5
Just do like I do, when they come to the door, ask them if they mind if I sacrifice a chicken while they talk to me. They leave everytime.
You do know if you have a no solicitors sign near your front door, if they knock, you can legally prosecute them for tresppassing? I know that for a fact because I got a restraining order aginst the local Jehovas Witness church forbidding them from ever appearing at my door.
I simply called the police every time they showed up and after the third time the cops told me I should try to get a restraining order against them, and I went to court and won.
Have not been bothered in over a year so far, and just renewed the order a few weeks ago.
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Post by ConqueringWolf on May 25, 2004 21:58:45 GMT -5
I always wanted to do this when they came to my door...but they eventually stopped knocking cause i would always start playing marilyn manson really lous when they were in the neighborhood. but i always wanted to say" sure..u can come in and tell me about god...if u let me talk to you about Satan the Master"(NO I am NOT a satanist..lmao) I just always wanted to say that to them...freak them out..lol
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Post by valderra on May 26, 2004 4:37:56 GMT -5
Just do like I do, when they come to the door, ask them if they mind if I sacrifice a chicken while they talk to me. They leave everytime. You do know if you have a no solicitors sign near your front door, if they knock, you can legally prosecute them for tresppassing? I know that for a fact because I got a restraining order aginst the local Jehovas Witness church forbidding them from ever appearing at my door. I simply called the police every time they showed up and after the third time the cops told me I should try to get a restraining order against them, and I went to court and won. Have not been bothered in over a year so far, and just renewed the order a few weeks ago. LOL Have to try that one. I just find them very annoying - they are intruding in my privacy and I don´t like it. Example: When my son still lived with me - he was 16 at the time, they came to our house (he was home from school and I was still at work). My son didn´t tell me about it and a few days later, when I was home, they came back. Before they got two words out, I said: "No thanks" (I am always polite about these things) and was about to close the door, when one of them said, we are here to see Steven (that´s my son). If they had known me they would have taken cover instead of asking for my son. I was furious and told them that my son was underage (he DOES look older than his age) and that they had no right to come and talk to him here, and if I EVER see them again on my doorstep that I would call the police. Aparently, they had given my son a book to read when they came the first time so my son hurried to the door to give back the book. I told them a few more home truths and THEN slammed the door in their faces. I never saw them again. Oh... and I also told my son a few home truths and HE never saw them again either. LOL
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Post by voyager on May 26, 2004 6:35:21 GMT -5
When my former job laid me off for good, they gave my name to every religious organization known to man, and so they started coming to my house. One time I was in the shower and Matt, who was 7 at the time, told them to leave and they wouldn't. When I got out of the shower I heard matt yelling the most profane words I have ever heard from him(to that point)and I went to see who he was cussing out. Turns out it was Jehovas Witnesses, and I just stood around the corner while this little 7 yr old kid in his underwear was cussing out these two guys. They kept saying that with his mouth he should get his mom or dad and go to church because he or his parents can never get into heavan with a mouth like that. Thats wen I walked around the corner and told them both to get the hell off my property before I come out there and shove a baseball bat up their ass. They didn't believe me, so I told Matt to get the baseball bat from his room.
They ran away when I walked out with the bat. Those two never came back again, but others did leading to the course I took like I said in an earlier post.
My best story about them though was when I was still living in San Diego, I had an apartment that you had to be buzzed in to gain access to the door(gated community). well my apartment over looked the gate and I saw them coming so when my buzzer rang, I refused to let them in. Well someone else let them in, and they came up to my door. I had been drinking heavilly, and they kept buzzing my door over and over so finally I grabbed a golf club from my roommates bag, who was laughing the entire time, and I threw the door open and told them I am going to beaty them silly with this club, they started to say something when I swung the club at them, and they ducked and took off running. They started running down the street with me in pursuit behind them cussing them out. I chased them for about 3 blocks and I lost them, then my roommate came screaming around the corner in my car and told me to get in. I said no way I'm going to hit one of them bastards before I go back home, so he grabs my shirt and drags me into the car just as a San Diego police car came by searching for a madman with a golfclub chasing 2 people. We went home and some of my neighbors asked if I got them, and I said no, and told them about the cops. About 10 minutes later, the cops came and interivewed everyone asking if we knew anything, which we all said no, even though one cop said I was drunk and matched the description given, but since they couldn't find the guys I was chasing they have no proof. But if they did call the cops to report it, I would be getting a followup visit by the police. It never came, those guys never did call the cops, which I was actually hoping they would have though.
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