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Post by xkamelx on Apr 15, 2004 3:18:28 GMT -5
Source: Space.comFantastic collisions between two massive stars huddled in a cluster could fuel a series of mergers creating a black hole known as a middleweight.
In computer-simulated stellar clusters, two stars each weighing more than a hundred Suns come together, creating a superstar whose increased size and gravity make it a target for more impacts. In just a few million years -- a cosmic blink of the eye -- a ball of gas equal in mass to a thousand regular stars snowballs into existence. Click Here For The Complete ArticleVery intersting. I was just thinking of blackholes the other day. It fascinates me that they have the ability to bend light, and even bend/warp time. I realize that one could crush half a galaxy into a peice of matter no larger then a grain of sand, given it was large enough, but I wonder what's on 'the other side' of a blackhole.If one was powerful enough, could the gravitaional forces actually tear space and time? It's almost too hard to imagine, a force that can bend light, suck light in, and bend time. How does something bend time? It's way above my human mind. ~Myke
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Post by ConqueringWolf on Apr 15, 2004 12:56:45 GMT -5
thats the eternal question....technically by science the center of a black hole is just infinite mass....mass that keeps building up the more it sucks in....but it is still a solid mass....yet there have always been theories they could be gateways to other places....but would anything ever be able to survive the gravitational forces exerted to make it thru the other side of a black hole if there is one. I kinda liked the ending of Disney's movie The Black Hole...it was along the same lines...had them all sucked thru into some alternate universe or something.
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Post by Jewells on Apr 15, 2004 21:19:57 GMT -5
Yeah that was a cool movie . As far as black holes, I have read that some people think they spew out what they draw in at a 'white hole'. Some say that it is a link past the Event Horizon.. the answers will have to wait till humans can go there and find out first hand...or we contact a race/species that knows already and they tell us..I personaly think that the latter is more apt to happen than the former .
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Post by Lykos on Apr 15, 2004 21:52:08 GMT -5
What Jewells is referring to sounds an awful lot like a wormhole... not the Bajoran wormhole from DS9, but an actual bona fide wormhole that could feasibly transport us through space and time, or possibly to another universe altogether.
A couple of little tidbits, as an aside:
1) IIRC, the center of our own Milky Way galaxy is proportedly composed of supermassive black holes... so much for Sha Kaa Ree from Star Trek V.
2) It's been proven about the Tungus explosion of 1908 that it was actually an extremely large and unstable meteorite that detonated over Siberia... but one theory, outlandish as it might seem, suggested that the explosion may have possibly been caused by a micro-singularity... basically a microscopic-sized black hole.
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Post by Jewells on Apr 15, 2004 23:00:15 GMT -5
I remember reading about the Tongus thing happening, and I do support the idea that is was a meteor that caused the 'explosion'.
I don't how ever remeber reading and or hearing that 'white holes' were synonimous with wormholes. Though thats entirely possible as I am a bit rusty on my Knowledge of spacial anomolies..lol and extra-solar masses..lol I have a lot of reading to do to catch up ..lol
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Post by ConqueringWolf on Apr 15, 2004 23:06:47 GMT -5
thing is...these are all just theories and based on the laws of physics as we know them....i tend to believe that its possible that in other galaxies or somrthing that our laws of physics may not work as we know them....such a black holes...we are defining them using our science...but what if they are something totally different that we dont understand....what if they really are just wormholes or portals...
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Post by xkamelx on Apr 15, 2004 23:15:48 GMT -5
That's very true, and don't forget qauntum physics, there are still many unknowns. I tend to believe our laws of physics don't apply in many areas of space.
I think the wormhole simularity appears as for if a blackhole sucks everything in, then a white hole would be the exiting point where everything is shot out, thus there would be some type of tunnle/path between the two, but not a tunnel in conventional terms. Perhaps a tunnel that exists beyond our own space time contiuum, in a void, or other domensions so to speak.
If there are infinate dimensions, and parallel universes, they must connect somehow, as they are all phsyical. The wouldnt connect in our way of thinking, like my chair touching the florr, but connect nevertheless, and when you think each of these dimensions are infinate in size, and each hold all the power and energy of a universe, it's feasible to think that there would be anomalies out there in the infinity that would open 'windows' between the two.
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Post by Speed on Apr 16, 2004 2:07:05 GMT -5
I read a theory a few years back that black holes suck matter in and release it as a "White Hole" in an antimatter universe. Who knows if that's a possibility or not? I think it's a bit sketchy. I've always believed that if you could somehow enter a black hole at the proper point, angle, speed, etc., that you could theoretically pop out the other side and end up in another time and place. Perhaps even "A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away..." ;D
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