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Post by Jewells on Apr 15, 2004 1:43:45 GMT -5
Though I would post a new thread on the colonization of Mars since it was off topic for newest discoveries in out solar system lol Found this site on Mars and what is available as far as official reports go , Looks like the solar winds could make things not so promising for colonization of the red planet * sighs then perks up * but we may advace to the point that we can fix that problem ..One of the reasons that Mars is so exposed is that its Magnetosphere, which deflects harmful solar winds, stoped working for some reason and the solar winds have stiped most of Mars' atmosphere away, including any protective 'ozone' type layer that it may have had prior to losing its magnetosphere, but anywasy heres the site, there are some helpfull links tword the bottom of the page for those who are interested aswell. Have fun with it Jewells
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Post by Jewells on Apr 15, 2004 1:44:50 GMT -5
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Post by ConqueringWolf on Apr 15, 2004 13:01:21 GMT -5
well this brings up a couple interesting points....for one....what if its possible that we did come from mars 4 billion years ago when we realized the planet was dying and it was our only chance for suvival? a remote possibility...also....how did they figure out just when the magnetic field went kaput on mars....and its disturbing they have no idea why.....what if we all woke up tomorrow to find out that OUR magnetosphere had quit working and the planet would be dead within a couple years. scary thoughts.
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Post by Jewells on Apr 15, 2004 21:13:31 GMT -5
I think that the movie "The Core" addressed that very concept. If the magma in the center of our planet were to stop spinnning then the gravity would become minimal and we would lose a lot of our atmosphere, exposing us to the same solar winds that have ravaged Mars. I don't know if I beleive that we as a species came Mars directly, would seem like there would have been some proof, unless we were just 'seeded' here ofcourse. But then again there is so much evidence in the fossil record that we evolved on earth, not elsewhere.
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Post by ConqueringWolf on Apr 15, 2004 21:59:12 GMT -5
but if we came here 4 billion years ago who is to say exactly what happened to the original settlers...maybe they couldnt necessarily survive? maybe they did genetic tinkering and created humans as a species who would be able to survive in this environment and then the original martians dies off after setting our evolution into motion.
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Post by Jewells on Apr 15, 2004 22:51:51 GMT -5
I don't think that primates were around 4 billion years ago.. but then again I supose it possible that earth genetics were tinkerd with to create mammals from the reptiles or amphibians of that era... I am trying to remeber the bilogical history. I need to break out my old history books..lol
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Post by xkamelx on Apr 15, 2004 23:11:04 GMT -5
It is also possible that were simply evolved from Martians to Earthlings. What i'm trying to say is, we all know what Neanderthal skull looks like, but only speculate what a head looked like while it was alive. We may have had a slightley different from when we were on Mars (assuming we did come from Mars for aguments sake) but over time we evolved to better adapt to Earh enviorments. After all isnt evolution about, a species being able to adapt?
Granted it's proven that brains were smaller, significantly smaller from back then, but that does not nessisarly mean those brains were any less intelligent then brains of today. Perhaps that size theory holds true on Earth creatures, but that's just it, we are thinking Earthwise, whose to say that smaller brains from intergalactic species cant be as intelligent, if not more then ours, while being smaller.
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Post by ConqueringWolf on Apr 15, 2004 23:15:49 GMT -5
whose to say if we had martian ancestors that they weren't the dinosaurs? they were alive back then....maybe we evolved eventually from dinosaurs to primates....and maybe the mothership is just buried somewhere we havent found it yet....after all...4 billion years worth of rock is pretty deep...and there is lots of it...
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Post by Jewells on Apr 16, 2004 0:16:27 GMT -5
All of those are very valid points of reasoning but I personaly think that if mans genetics were tinkered with, that it would have had to come from another source. It feels like there is a time discrepency here for it to have been mars..I say 'feel' because I can't quite remember what made me think that ..so I am going to so some more research and get back to ya on that.
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Post by xkamelx on Aug 3, 2004 23:59:28 GMT -5
Here's some new info about life currently existing on Mars, as opposed to life existing there millions of years ago, which I havent completly ruled out yet. It's a very interesting read. DENVER, COLORADO – Those twin robots hard at work on Mars have transmitted teasing views that reinforce the prospect that microbial life may exist on the red planet.
Results from NASA’s Spirit and Opportunity rovers are being looked over by a legion of planetary experts, including a scientist who remains steadfast that his experiment in 1976 proved the presence of active microbial life in the topsoil of Mars.
"All factors necessary to constitute a habitat for life as we know it exist on current-day Mars," explained Gilbert Levin, executive officer for science at Spherix Incorporated of Beltsville, Maryland.
Levin made his remarks here Monday at the International Symposium on Optical Science and Technology, the 49th annual meeting of Society of Photo-Optical Instrumentation Engineers (SPIE).
Provocative find
Levin has a long-standing interest in time-weathered Mars and the promise of life today on that distant and dusty world.
NASA’s 1976 Viking mission to Mars was geared-up to look for possible martian life. And it was Levin’s Labeled Release experiment that made a provocative find: The presence of a highly reactive agent in the surface material of Mars.
Levin concluded in 1997 that this activity was triggered by living microorganisms lurking in the martian soil – a judgment he admits has not been generally accepted by the scientific community.
Now roll forward to 2004. Consider the findings of Spirit and Opportunity, the golf-cart sized robots wheeling over Mars at Gusev Crater and Meridiani Planum.
"Those rovers have been absolutely sensational, pouring out thousands of images. Those images have lots of information in them. And I’ve tried to deduce something in there relative to life…and I think I found a lot," Levin told SPACE.com.www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mars_microorganisms_040803.html^ Click the link for the complete article ^ I can't help but wonder if it is dangerous bringing this life back to EArth? I mean for all we know in our atmosphere is could mutate into some type of virus that makes EBola look like a sissy, and destroy all life on Earth in a matter of weeks.
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Post by theartak on Aug 4, 2004 12:55:42 GMT -5
War of the Worlds in reverse, perhaps?
That's an interesting thought, although the suggestion they put at the end of a lab on the moon might help with that.
Of course, who's to say that any microbes they discover truly originated from Mars? It would be terribly ironic, I think, if perhaps there are colonies of these organisms, but if their introduction was from a source a bit closer to home, namely us.
Think about it...just how much of a sterilization process does everything go through before launch? I imagine the rovers themselves did, but the launch craft are outdoors for how long, and is it beyond the realm of possibility that something could have gotten on there at some point, made the journey in a dormant state, then taken hold on the surface?
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Post by xkamelx on Aug 4, 2004 21:40:41 GMT -5
That's a real good point. Also keep in mind there there are plenty of organisims that lives just below our atmoshere in the air, according to the Discovery Channel. It's likely they could have attatched themselves there as well. For all we know our actions will lead to a civilization on Mars in a few million years from now. Then again, the single cell organism in the Primortal sea on Earth could have arrived the exact same way.
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