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Post by xkamelx on Dec 13, 2003 1:48:58 GMT -5
what are your personally theories on our universe, time travel, meaning of life, ect.
Please place your personal theories here, and hopfully others will post thiers and we can engage in a friendly debate.
I for one am exited in seeing others views, thoeries and beliefs.
After all, we all have something to learn from each other.
This should be quite interesting.
thanks in advance,
~Myke
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Post by vold on Dec 13, 2003 2:35:20 GMT -5
Its hard to start with a very broad topic. Someone have to start somewhere first & I have no idea where. How about how our own First Contact will be
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Post by DeepSPace9 on Dec 15, 2003 12:30:58 GMT -5
I believe first contact will happen secretely. No one will know for a while after it occirs because the US Govt or any Govt for that matter isn't going to want mass chaos on the street.
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Post by vold on Dec 15, 2003 13:38:05 GMT -5
Mass chaos, bah!.
There wouldn't be mass chaos if not for such stupidness in our genes about not working together as a single race.
Its prejudices's fault. The Vulcans are lucky that most of greedy people died in the Trek human's 3rd war, so not much complains going around.
We won't be so lucky.
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Post by DeepSPace9 on Dec 15, 2003 14:39:50 GMT -5
Thats why it will be a secret. Hell it wouldn;t be surprising to find out before I died that a first contact had already occured, ala Men in Black, but that the Govt will never let anyone really know.
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Post by vold on Dec 15, 2003 14:47:45 GMT -5
They don't even seem to be preparing us for the change, not much is going on to make people handle such things. wasting time with war, politics, etc. Anyway, whoever our "1st contact" is that they made secretly, must be a little bit out of their mind, to eventhink of making contact with a few then the whole. They should wait themself.
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Post by xkamelx on Dec 15, 2003 14:49:30 GMT -5
A First contact could also be an invasion. Many sci fi stories tell of species' who exust thier own natural resources and seek new resources from other planets, so they may invade us for our fossil fuels or whatever. Perhaps they too are a carbon based lifeform, and need oxygen, water, ect. and thier planets star is dying, making thier civilization old enough to have the technology to reach Earth.
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Post by ConqueringWolf on Apr 5, 2004 18:32:15 GMT -5
well..one interesting theory is that this is not the first incarnation of our universe. this could be the billionth even. they have done studies that conclude that even though the universe is technically still expanding eventually gravity is going to start pulling everything back in.....until it reaches the point where everything gets sucked back into the point of origin of the universe then BANG it explodes again. now you really have to have no concept of time to understand how long that would take....but it is possible out universe could have contracted an infinte number of times by now and exploded out again. kinda wild thought aint it...also...i kind of wonder if its possible we originally came from mars...they have proof there was water there once now....what if mars looked like earth at one time....but there was a natural disaster or a war or something like that that forced everyone to leave mars and crash land on earth or something. can u imagine if these robots on mars were to find ruins of old buildings or fossils or something? talk about blowing peoples minds.
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Post by xkamelx on Apr 8, 2004 19:58:26 GMT -5
Comming from, Mars is a very interesting theory, very probable too.
Think of this, if there was some type of global natural disaster on Mars, that made us leave the planet on route for Earth, ala 'mission to Mars' it is logical that we'd have no history of this.
How many of us could fix our car if we wrecked it in the Actic, or fix any pieces of technology. If we landed here, we would have no real resources to maintain the technology we brought with us, and eventually we's be living in huts, as we would if we were abandoned on a deserted tropical island. Over the course of a few generations, we'd no longer understand the technology we once had, and probably not even believe it, thus we as a species started all over again, into what we are today.
The ruins on Mars would be virtually undetectable. We still havent discovered all of the ruins beneath Earth yet, let alone any on Mars. It is an interesting theory, and makes good sence. Mars has canals that could have only been formed by rivers, and/or man made or irrigation purposes. I believe Mars still has water.
As for the billionth reincarnation of our universe, that may be true, the know universe at least, as I believe ultimatly space is infinate. However I am skepticle in believing that we repeat our same exact actions each time. If we do, what physics control that force? And why?
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Post by ConqueringWolf on Apr 9, 2004 15:45:02 GMT -5
well....I never meant to insinuate we reperat our actions every time.....only to point out they say the universe will eventually contract and there will be another big bang.....whose to say what incarnation of the known universe are at right now.....this ould be the billionth universe that has lasted trillions of billions of years.....it boggles the mind. and so does the did we come from mars thing....I swear if the find ruins there people are earth will flip out....it would probably take something like that to happen to make us stop fighting each other and band together as a species.
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Post by timewarp on Jan 26, 2005 17:52:44 GMT -5
well..one interesting theory is that this is not the first incarnation of our universe. this could be the billionth even. they have done studies that conclude that even though the universe is technically still expanding eventually gravity is going to start pulling everything back in.....until it reaches the point where everything gets sucked back into the point of origin of the universe then BANG it explodes again. now you really have to have no concept of time to understand how long that would take....but it is possible out universe could have contracted an infinte number of times by now and exploded out again. kinda wild thought aint it...also...i kind of wonder if its possible we originally came from mars...they have proof there was water there once now....what if mars looked like earth at one time....but there was a natural disaster or a war or something like that that forced everyone to leave mars and crash land on earth or something. can u imagine if these robots on mars were to find ruins of old buildings or fossils or something? talk about blowing peoples minds. Gravity will never pull the universe back together. Gravity is only ten percent of what would be required to contract our universe. And even if you increased the mass in the universe by ten times, it would just make the biggest black hole ever. And life on earth started as single celled bacteria, not a civillized lifeform in a spaceship.
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Post by xkamelx on Jan 27, 2005 6:49:42 GMT -5
And life on earth started as single celled bacteria, not a civillized lifeform in a spaceship. What makes you believe this?
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Post by timewarp on Jan 27, 2005 7:15:54 GMT -5
What makes you believe this? Mostly because if life was originally from mars, it couldn't survive on earth. Earth is in a sort of center point from the sun. It is not too close, nor is it too far. Mars is too much colder for life from there to adapt to life here. So the life from mars theory gets ruled out. And nature always takes the simplist course. It will never create a human first. The simplist thing to create is bacteria. So it had to have come first.
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Post by xkamelx on Jan 27, 2005 7:43:45 GMT -5
Then how to you explain the life forms living at the bottom of the deepest oceans, where the pressure is beyond comprehension, and living next to the thermal heat vents that would disintegrate us?
Life can also survive the vacuum of space. In fact, that is one theory as where to some virus' come from, alien life form, dormant in space.
As whether we came from Mars, a comet, an asteroid, or happened to evolve in the primordial sea, I do not know. I can believe in each theory, and none at all.
I'm just saying I do not believe it is impossible that we originated from Mars, or any other point in outer space.
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Post by timewarp on Jan 27, 2005 8:04:54 GMT -5
Then how to you explain the life forms living at the bottom of the deepest oceans, where the pressure is beyond comprehension, and living next to the thermal heat vents that would disintegrate us? Life can also survive the vacuum of space. In fact, that is one theory as where to some virus' come from, alien life form, dormant in space. As whether we came from Mars, a comet, an asteroid, or happened to evolve in the primordial sea, I do not know. I can believe in each theory, and none at all. I'm just saying I do not believe it is impossible that we originated from Mars, or any other point in outer space. I'm not saying imposssible, just very improbable.
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