maledoro
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Feb 17, 2005 20:34:55 GMT -5
Post by maledoro on Feb 17, 2005 20:34:55 GMT -5
There is also the chance that we may stumble across "intelligent life as we do not know it" as we make our way across the universe. I've felt that the most realistic first contact that was shown in a movie was in 2001: A Space Odyssey. We have no idea what the Monolith was, much less anything else about its origins. If we encounter intelligent life elsewhere, it will be in a form that we would not comprehend nor recognize.
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Straga
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Feb 17, 2005 23:43:22 GMT -5
Post by Straga on Feb 17, 2005 23:43:22 GMT -5
You know, I've thought of this before, and think that if we do find life out there eventually, it is more likely that we will find animals, such as these aliens, as opposed to intelligent beings. The genetic make-up of these aliens isn't that far fetched either. In fact, finding creatures with genetic make-up like our own seems unlikely since there are so many types of environments out there. Remember 'Signs' where water hurt those aliens? That is very plausible, so acid for blood doesn't seem that far fetched to me. I would hope though, that the day we do land on some planet life LV-426 and one of the crew members gets a parasite stuck on his head, that the science officer of the ship does in fact follow quarantine procedures, and isn't an android manipulated by 'The company' . Hahahaha! That is true, the original Alien was itself based on an earthen parasite, the flea. Which when looked at without a scope isn't all that daunting, however blow it to human proportions and accentuate it's graceful yet disgusting skeletal hulk and you have a slightly unknerveing monster. Oh and, I would also hope that the head of science devision isn't Ian Holm... just for saftey's sake.
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syborg
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Jun 11, 2005 11:28:48 GMT -5
Post by syborg on Jun 11, 2005 11:28:48 GMT -5
The movie admittedly was not Star Trek, but the fact remains the nagging question is how fast was the frieghter was? Did it take years to travel from one planet to another? How many years did it take Ripley to return to Earth? There was also the story of some conspiracy, the freighter was to to go to this planet where the Alien eggs were. Ripley found out that there was a conspiracy. In another movie Ripley is revived and asked to visit that planet again, I think she was in a coma. For some reason the Aliens were needed by someone or some organisation - that side of the story was never discussed. In the last movie,the ship was crashing or landing on Earth. What was going on Earth that that Aliens were needed? This question remained a mystery. In the last movie I think they showed an attempt was made to make an alien-human hybrid, Ripley and the alien - who was conducting this mad experiment and to what end? How did Ripley become the mother of an alien?
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Jun 11, 2005 12:14:19 GMT -5
Post by xkamelx on Jun 11, 2005 12:14:19 GMT -5
1. I do not think the ships have light speed capability. The crew we always put into cryo sleep when heading out into space, which meant it took months or years to go wherever they were going. In reality though, a ship would need to go a little faster then the speed of light to reach other planets in years, let alone months. 2. The organization they worked for was Weyland Industries. I think they were a multi talented company. By that I mean, they were obviously a mining company, mined in space, but they really, REALLY, wanted to get a hold of aliens for biological weapons. Whether they were gonna use them their selves, or sell them, I do not know. 3. In Alien Resurrection, they had Ripley's DNA, and re-created her because she had a queen on her belly. They recreated her as she was when she dies so that they could extract the queen. However, through the cloning, part of Ripley's human DNA crossed over into the Queen, and part of the Queen's DNA crossed over into Ripley. As a result Ripley was basically a super human, having all of the alien's powers, and the Queen reproduced like a human would, no longer laying eggs, but giving live birth. Since the Queen had human DNA and was giving live birth, the Queens alien baby had half of Ripley's DNA, and half of the Queens, much like a baby has genes from both it's mother and father. Therefore, technically the alien/human hybrid was Ripley's offspring.
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syborg
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Jun 15, 2005 11:25:21 GMT -5
Post by syborg on Jun 15, 2005 11:25:21 GMT -5
If one were to watch the movie Alien Versus Predator, the Predators brought the Aliens to hunt them. Somehow the planet where the Aliens belonged to was found - or it could be that that some Alien had left behind the eggs there and the planet was discovered - by whom, remains a mystery. The freighter was diverted there. In the last movie ship in which Ripley was crashing on Earth in the final scene, it is obvious the story had not ended - there should have been another movie made to make sense of it all.
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maledoro
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Jun 15, 2005 17:32:53 GMT -5
Post by maledoro on Jun 15, 2005 17:32:53 GMT -5
If one were to watch the movie Alien Versus Predator, the Predators brought the Aliens to hunt them. Somehow the planet where the Aliens belonged to was found - or it could be that that some Alien had left behind the eggs there and the planet was discovered - by whom, remains a mystery. Okay, first off, Anderson took too many liberties with the Alien franchise. He caused great confusion and even some contradiction. For a definitive solution as to where the aliens had originated, it was on the planet that was later named LV-426. This came straight from Dan O'Bannon's mouth. According to him, in The Alien Portfolio, the planet was undergoing catastrophic changes, killing off the host animals. The adult aliens died out, leaving their eggs unattended in subterranean chambers. Years later, the Space Jockeys come along on an exploration mission, and one of them encounters the eggs and gets infected. The others carry him back to the ship, not knowing what had happened to him. Then, a chain of events echoing those in Alien takes place. Millennia later, the Nostromo arrives, starting it all over again.
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Jun 16, 2005 14:58:28 GMT -5
Post by xkamelx on Jun 16, 2005 14:58:28 GMT -5
If one were to watch the movie Alien Versus Predator, the Predators brought the Aliens to hunt them. Somehow the planet where the Aliens belonged to was found - or it could be that that some Alien had left behind the eggs there and the planet was discovered - by whom, remains a mystery. Okay, first off, Anderson took too many liberties with the Alien franchise. He caused great confusion and even some contradiction. For a definitive solution as to where the aliens had originated, it was on the planet that was later named LV-426. This came straight from Dan O'Bannon's mouth. According to him, in The Alien Portfolio, the planet was undergoing catastrophic changes, killing off the host animals. The adult aliens died out, leaving their eggs unattended in subterranean chambers. Years later, the Space Jockeys come along on an exploration mission, and one of them encounters the eggs and gets infected. The others carry him back to the ship, not knowing what had happened to him. Then, a chain of events echoing those in Alien takes place. Millennia later, the Nostromo arrives, starting it all over again. That is excellent. I have always wondered how that ship got there. Until now I have always assumed the aliens were aboard a ship that crashed after all of the crew was killed.
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maledoro
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Jun 16, 2005 21:27:23 GMT -5
Post by maledoro on Jun 16, 2005 21:27:23 GMT -5
That is excellent. I have always wondered how that ship got there. Until now I have always assumed the aliens were aboard a ship that crashed after all of the crew was killed. You're not alone. Not to mention that whenever Ridley Scott would mention where the eggs came from, he'd start his explanations with "I assume...", "I'd like to think...", and so on. But, O'Bannon's explanation is the straight dope.
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syborg
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Jun 19, 2005 11:22:57 GMT -5
Post by syborg on Jun 19, 2005 11:22:57 GMT -5
What about the last movie when the ship crashed on Earth? There are still no answers - I suppose no one wanted to stretch this too far, but there are possibilities - Ripley as a super-human able to fight in a world war leading an army of aliens, I guess everyone no longer inclined to make a movie which puts the pieces together and eventually makes sense of entire Alien story.
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maledoro
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Jun 19, 2005 14:53:20 GMT -5
Post by maledoro on Jun 19, 2005 14:53:20 GMT -5
What about the last movie when the ship crashed on Earth? There are still no answers - I suppose no one wanted to stretch this too far, but there are possibilities - Ripley as a super-human able to fight in a world war leading an army of aliens, I guess everyone no longer inclined to make a movie which puts the pieces together and eventually makes sense of entire Alien story. Alien Resurrection has no bearing whatsoever on the first three movies. They make sense with or without A:R.
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Jun 21, 2005 23:12:39 GMT -5
Post by xkamelx on Jun 21, 2005 23:12:39 GMT -5
I don't think there will be anymore alien movies unless they make a sequel to Alien vs Predator. The only way a sole Alien movie could be made is from the DNA of the cloned Riply back on Earth.
Of course something could happen, they could kidnap here, clone the aliens, and they get out on Earth, but that wouldn't be the same. Alien movies should take place in space, as that is part of what made the first one so scary, in space no one can hear you scream, there is no where to run to, ect.
I also don't think Sigorney Weaver is interested in doing anymore alien movies, and I doubt the studio would green light another movie without her.
If one was to be made though, I would like to see James Cameron direct it, and make it spooky again.
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Jun 22, 2005 9:33:41 GMT -5
Post by ConqueringWolf on Jun 22, 2005 9:33:41 GMT -5
I don't think there is any explanation needed after A:R.......They landed on earth....they probably lived out their life quietly in a corner of the world somewhere......there are no more aliens or anything.....I don't see much of a plot being available for post A:R
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maledoro
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Jun 23, 2005 17:07:08 GMT -5
Post by maledoro on Jun 23, 2005 17:07:08 GMT -5
I've written a dozen scenarios that have no Ripley and no Company to acquire an alien. The cool thing is is that any of them could take place at any time without conflicting with the timeline set in the movies.
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Jul 14, 2005 13:54:01 GMT -5
Post by Raven on Jul 14, 2005 13:54:01 GMT -5
I like all the aliens, suprisingly Alien Resurrection was not bad, but I want to see the original once more.
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Straga
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Sept 5, 2005 12:06:02 GMT -5
Post by Straga on Sept 5, 2005 12:06:02 GMT -5
I've written a dozen scenarios that have no Ripley and no Company to acquire an alien. The cool thing is is that any of them could take place at any time without conflicting with the timeline set in the movies. Well that is what Dan O'Bannon (writer) said that he wanted the story to be like, no deffinate era and very real but expendable characters, he said he rathered it that way so that there was more room to expand on the idea, but he didn't think the company would hold on to Ripleys character for so long. Raven, You do need to watch it again, it's just one of those movies that grows on you.
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