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Post by Kmylove on Mar 15, 2007 14:28:04 GMT -5
From the moment I've seen Revolutions I have constantly wondered who exactly is Sati supposed to be in the movies? I mean what is her purpose? She doesn't do anything so it's hard for me to think that she was there just for nothing.
Some minutes ago I have just finished reading a theory about her which is quite interesting. In short, the theory stated the following: the path of a "one" begins in Mobil Ave (the train station) form where he is taken to the Oracle and trained, then sent into the Matrix to do what it's supposed to do: have a life, be found, reload. The same was the case with Neo, just that we see him from the moment he is rescued. Taking the red pill made him forget his past life so he has to rediscover how it's like being the One. In Reloaded, he reaches the source but never finishes the process, he does things by half. However this does have consequences. The new "One", Sati, leaves the train station to the Oracle, while Neo has to finish what he started to leave the road open for the new One. Thus Sati would be the new "One".
It is pretty interesting yet I don't know if I should believe it. It starts from something which I think it's fundamentaly wrong (the idea that everyone in the Matrix is a program and when they are unplugged the red pill just attributres them a shell, a body).
So what is your view? What is Sati?
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Post by xkamelx on Mar 24, 2007 5:23:40 GMT -5
I don't remember that name, was she the little girl from the train station that Neo was locked in?
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Post by Kmylove on Mar 24, 2007 5:25:39 GMT -5
I don't remember that name, was she the little girl from the train station that Neo was locked in? Indeed she is.
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Post by xkamelx on Mar 24, 2007 5:34:52 GMT -5
I do not believe everyone in the Matrix is a program. The only way that would work is if they have limitless bodies to inject the programs into, and outside of Smith entering the real world, I do not think that is possible in the Matrix.
I have not seen Revolutions in a few years now. Didn't the little girl and her parents state they were programs in the movie? I was never under the impression she would become 'the one', but also had no idea what she was doing there.
When I think about it, with the exception of Neo being in a coma in the real world, I have no idea what he was doing there either, what good would it do the Matrix to keep him locked in there like that. And for that matter, why were the program family in there? Were they hiding? I was always under the impression they were trying to escape somehow, renegade programs.
But if she was to be the one, and was starting her journey there, why did the Oracle have so many other children in her home in the first movie? Wasn't she searching for the one then?
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Post by Kmylove on Mar 24, 2007 6:02:35 GMT -5
I do not believe everyone in the Matrix is a program. The only way that would work is if they have limitless bodies to inject the programs into, and outside of Smith entering the real world, I do not think that is possible in the Matrix. I have not seen Revolutions in a few years now. Didn't the little girl and her parents state they were programs in the movie? I was never under the impression she would become 'the one', but also had no idea what she was doing there. When I think about it, with the exception of Neo being in a coma in the real world, I have no idea what he was doing there either, what good would it do the Matrix to keep him locked in there like that. And for that matter, why were the program family in there? Were they hiding? I was always under the impression they were trying to escape somehow, renegade programs. But if she was to be the one, and was starting her journey there, why did the Oracle have so many other children in her home in the first movie? Wasn't she searching for the one then? I've only seen RV once too, but as far as I remember: yes, they do state that they are programs. That train station is supposed to be a place where they send programs which fail to do their job. Rama Kandra (the girl's father) failed to do a job for the Merovingian (but I'm not sure what; however, in RL, when Neo, Trinity and Morpheus first go to the Merv's bar, if you look carefully you see Merv's people getting Rama out of the restaurant through the left side, it's something that also draws Neo's attention). Their involvement in the movie is something I fail to understand too, as well as Neo being there. Was he there because he had failed doing his mission? As for your final question: you have a fine point. Maybe she was searching for potentials?
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Post by xkamelx on May 4, 2007 1:15:15 GMT -5
Well, I caught the second half of Revolutions on HBO tonight, from just before the war begins in Zion to the very end.
I'm convinced Sati was going to be the 'one' in the event the Oracle's plan for change did not work. I noticed in the end of the movie after The Architect walks away Sati comes up to the Oracle and as they both look at th beautiful sunrise and horizon the Oracle asked Sati if she did that, and she said yes, she did it for Neo.
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Post by Kmylove on May 4, 2007 7:30:45 GMT -5
Well, I caught the second half of Revolutions on HBO tonight, from just before the war begins in Zion to the very end. lucky you, I'm still waiting for HBO to end its monopoly on the movie so it can be released to "normal" TV stations. I like the idea. But it also makes me wonder: for how long would the Machines keep their promise? Maybe if something goes wrong she might actually become The One.
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Post by Kmylove on Jan 3, 2008 4:02:44 GMT -5
Bumping this because I've recently been even more bugged by this issue.
I've played Enter The Matrix, and while it managed to answer some questions, it also managed to raise some more. When you play as ghost, and he goes see the Oracle, he asks her what happened to her that made har change her appearance and lose part of her memories. She tells her that she has been betrayed by two programs (Rama Kandra and his wife), who gave her codes to the Merovingian. Ghost is puzzled why she didn't protect herself from this since she was the Oracle and knew what was going on, so she explains that they betrayed her because they loved their child, which they wanted to protect from getting deleted, and that this child (Sati) is going to change "this world" (The Matrix) and "your world" (the real world).
On one hand I'm happy it explains why Sati and her parents were at the train station (because that was some kind of Recycle Bin let's say, where programs were sent before being permanently deleted), but on the other hand I wonder: why did the Merovingian want to delete Sati? Did he know what was her purpose? And most of all, what is her purpose? How is she going to change the world?
Apperantly, in The Matrix Online, she is kidnapped and she causes some severe changes to the wheather until she is saved.
Everything is confusing me a lot, I'd like to hear some more ideas on this.
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