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Post by icemitten on Aug 19, 2008 2:23:56 GMT -5
I have absolutely no idea. It's not mentioned in the series either. But my best guess would be that what we refer to as "strings" is not what they really are. They follow the curves and ripples of spacetime in THEIR dimension. They are shaped the way they are because of the dimensions in which they exist. For example: 6 dimensional, curled up shapes exist in the same spot in space and time as the 2 or 3 dimensional "strings" that we know. (I mean, we know what a string of thread looks like, we know its shape). They can actually exist together in one spot because of the extra dimensions.
Think of it like a closet: the clothes of the top rack don't bother the clothes on the lower racks, etc. Yet, they're all in the same closet.
But what exactly binds the energy, I don't know. Gravity? Electromagnetism? A new force? I'm clueless.
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Post by Favorite15 on Aug 19, 2008 12:45:26 GMT -5
Would you say the string theory doesn't answer all of the questions presented?
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Post by icemitten on Aug 20, 2008 8:09:07 GMT -5
Not necessarily. I've only seen the NOVA series about it. That's like the "String Theory for Dummies", not the full theory. I'm nowhere near smart enough to understand that. My friend studies quantum mechanics and other physics things (has finished her 3rd year in University), and SHE doesn't understand page 1 of the book about the theory.. ..so maybe it does answer all the questions. I don't know.
The thing is, String Theory can't be proven right OR wrong! There's no evidence available (due to the size of the suggested strings of energy and other factors). But for the same reasons, there's no evidence against it either.
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Post by Oliver on Aug 28, 2008 22:46:58 GMT -5
If you ask me, there had to be something before the big bang. Think about evolution. If the universe is everything, and it is constantly expanding, then what is it expanding into? Perhaps when we observe that it is expanding - we imagine that it is growing inside itself, as in, more and more things appear inside it every moment. More stars, suns, moons, planets, black holes, white holes. If the universe is whole, then it must be a circle. And a circle is everlasting. Time is like a circle, and time controls everything, including the universe. So, if the universe is constantly "expanding", what is it expanding from? If it is everything, then what came before that that it could begin from? If there was nothing to begin with, then the universe would be expanding into nothingess. The nothingness would just keep growing, yet in a logical sense not be growing at all, because nothing cannot be something, it is its exact opposite. So, if the universe is to exist, then there has to have been something before it that it could expand off. It's like creating something, you cannot build it until you first have an idea to create from. That probably makes hardly any sense at all. And that's what I hate about these kind oif subjects, there's always so much to write and you never know where to begin, so you end up leaving things out and/or putting them in the wrong spot and so on until it's just gibberish! But this begs the next question... if something was here first, what?
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Post by icemitten on Aug 31, 2008 10:52:41 GMT -5
Like you said: time is a loop. Maybe it's just wrong of us to assume everything has a beginning and an ending in a DIFFERENT POINT IN TIME. Why can't the beginning be the ending and the ending the new beginning? If you look at it like that, there's no "point" in space OR time where/when everything suddenly started to exist. Time itself is just a strange concept, conjured up by mankind. To US, "today" and "tomorrow" are in different spots in time. But we know that on the sub-atomic level, this breaks down. A subatomic particle can exist AND not-exist, or it can explode after it exploded, or before it even started to exist in the first place. Time isn't a one-way line in there. This doesn't affect us, since sub-atomic is.. ..well.. ..very very small. So for us, "now" and "now" are different points in time. (it takes you a tiny amount of time to read from the first "now" to the second. ) but on subatomic level (quantum mechanics) these might very well happen at the same time. Or not at all. Or maybe they've already happened?
See, "time" and the "time line" are concepts thought up by mankind. There might be other universes, parallel to ours, where everything happens at the same time. And it would be normal to its in habitants. If (hypothestical situation here!!) we would somehow be able to travel between these parallel universes, we'd see some pretty awkward stuff. Like.. ..maybe there's no gravity at all, and everybody would float. Or time would run backwards. Things we can hardly think to be true.. ..but they COULD happen in those other universes!
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Post by Oliver on Sept 15, 2008 22:40:00 GMT -5
Well, first of all, i don't believe in parallel universes, because I don't like the thought that there are an infinte number of other versions of me who are more/less successful, I like to think I'm the only me in existance. Anyway back to the time travel. You make a good point about begininngs and ends. As time is more like a circle than a straight line, every time the rotation around the circle "ends" it "begins" again. A new time line, a new era, whatever. But since it is a circle and therefore cannot be interpretated as point "A" and "B" there can really be no "end" or "beginning".
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Post by icemitten on Sept 17, 2008 3:44:20 GMT -5
Exactly. But about the parallel universes: the inhabitants might very well be totally different from us. Not carbon-based but, nitrogen-based. Or sugar-based for all we know Or a chemical that doesn't even occur in our universe..
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Post by Oliver on Sept 22, 2008 20:37:58 GMT -5
They don't exist at all until proven so I exist, and it's proven. I'm typing this message right now, therefore I exist. What about these parallell gimps huh? Where are they? I bet there's some idiot out there sitting at a computer rambling about how he exists because he's typing a message on his computer and that no other versions of him exist.
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Post by icemitten on Sept 23, 2008 3:02:31 GMT -5
XD let's not get existential now.. But those "gimps" (whatever that means, English isn't my mother tongue, but I guess it's not.. ..good? ) have just as much right to exist as we do, right? Yeah, Oliver exists. I exist too. Yet, Oliver and I are not in the same room (probably not even the same country). Why should our different points in space be further apart than parallel universes? Maybe we're sitting in the same room in another dimension, who's to say?
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Post by Oliver on Sept 25, 2008 8:59:49 GMT -5
Oh sorry. "Gimp" refers to a person who dresses up in stupid black leather for... well let's just say "pleasurable experiences". You'd be better of searching the word on wikipedia. But please, heed my warning. It is rather disturbing. Now you're really melting my brains! I never thought of it that way. Perhaps you've got some sort of machine that allows you to contact parallel universes? Or maybe I do? Well, I reckon you can rule that out about 99% because I can imagine if either of us did have a machine like that, we'd be in a lot of trouble for talking about -- *scuffle scuffle SMASH POW ZAP* ........... Just kidding. No goverment people came and smash pow zapped me. Anyway. I just don't like the idea that there's more than one of me. I can't imagine what I'd do if I ever met another version of me in a parallel universe. What would I be like? And if there are millions of other mes in other universes, what are they all doing right now? Because think about every single choice you've made in your life. If each one creates parallel universes, then does each decision you make after that one affect the paralelle universes? Think about it. If i choose to pick up a pen, then that creates a universe where I don't pick up the pen. Then, ten seconds later, I put down the pen. Does this mean in that other universe where I didn't pick up the pen, the decision I made to put down the pen will affect that universe? Or do the parallel universes only get affected by single decisions you make and just go on from that point?
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Post by icemitten on Oct 3, 2008 6:32:42 GMT -5
..ah that explains the noises I've been hearing lately.. And I wasn't talking about other versions of us. I mean THIS version of us. like.. ..we can put a line and a square on one sheet of paper. Maybe in another dimension, they can put 3D things on a "sheet of paper" as well, and then we'd be in the same room perhaps? Or even in the very same spot! Imagine that! All the Earth, all of humanity, crammed into ONE tiny speck in another (higher) dimension. And just for the record: I have some odd machinery here, but none of it has contacted a parallel universe..
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