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Post by zdnexus on Aug 9, 2008 15:22:08 GMT -5
If there was absolutely nothing before Big Bang how did something emerge from out absolutely nothing - no time, no energy nothing which we know as the laws of nature. Space is huge and empty and continues to remain so. All physics and astronomy is based on in relation to objects in space - but by and large space absolutely cold, dark and empty. Stars and planets are things within in great deal of nothing. So it is something versus something. Is empty space something or is it nothing? It said that the stars are moving away, where are they going deeper and deeper in the vast emptiness. - is there a limit to it or trillions of years from now there will not be a single star in the sky because they would have all far off deep into space. Astronomers call the universe time, energy and matter. But when all the galaxies gone away there would be nothing to see. Astronomers will not find anything to observe. I could be wrong - my knowledge of science is very basic so I could be absolutely wrong. The Big Bang could be a black hole opening a portal into this vast emptiness and all the stars and galaxies got in here.
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Post by Bones on Aug 10, 2008 4:46:41 GMT -5
Noone can say for sure, and I'm not sure what I believe personally.
I'd like to think there was some sort of vacuum of space there already, stars etc but the "Big Bang" be it through gassy elements, atoms whatever, then we got all these funny little comets, nebulas and slowly the planets and galaxies formed.
One theory is:
I like the sound of all the galaxies being clumped together then expanding outward, separating via the Big Bang.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 11, 2008 4:39:22 GMT -5
Personally, I'm willing to bet money on there being an entirely different other universe before the Big Bang. Of course this is just conjecture on my part, but it could be possible that there've been an endless cycle of Big Bangs, Big Crunches and universes coming and going. Well, why not?
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Post by icemitten on Aug 12, 2008 4:46:48 GMT -5
String Theory suggests that there are 11 dimensions ,some so tiny they only exist on sub-atomic level, and some so huge they form planes. It suggests that we are on the 3D plane, but that there are other "D" planes and sometimes they collide.. ..and that that collision would be the "big bang"..
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Post by Bones on Aug 12, 2008 10:37:03 GMT -5
Ooh, I love String Theory! It's been a while, a very long while since I started learning about it though.
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Post by icemitten on Aug 13, 2008 14:58:42 GMT -5
It's all on youtube now, the NOVA SCIENCE series about it, called "The Elegant Universe"
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Post by Favorite15 on Aug 13, 2008 18:55:23 GMT -5
One theory is: I like the sound of all the galaxies being clumped together then expanding outward, separating via the Big Bang. Your quote says: "The galaxies were not all clumped together..." Perhaps the string theory would be the most logical. One plane ripping through a theoretical barrier separating the planes. Thus, all the galaxies spill out into our current plane. Perhaps the 'dark matter' currently being speculated on, is actually matter at home in our plane.
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Post by icemitten on Aug 15, 2008 5:48:21 GMT -5
Interesting view on dark matter. Could it be possible that matter got transferred during the "collision of the planes" (in quotes because it's only a theory), but.. ..like when a newer computer tries to transfer a file to an older computer, and the older one can't read the information.. What if the same happened to this "dark matter". Maybe it was transferred, but our plane could not "read" the information? ..just a speculation..
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Post by Favorite15 on Aug 15, 2008 9:27:26 GMT -5
I didn't want to say it, but this is the cause of all the dark matter. ------------------------- Are you saying dark matter could be "unreadable bits of information"? I can't think of a way to salvage "universal waste".
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Post by Bones on Aug 15, 2008 10:34:30 GMT -5
Your quote says: "The galaxies were not all clumped together..." Perhaps the string theory would be the most logical. One plane ripping through a theoretical barrier separating the planes. Thus, all the galaxies spill out into our current plane. Perhaps the 'dark matter' currently being speculated on, is actually matter at home in our plane. That quote was from a website though, so are not my own words. I wish all aliens were like Nibbler or Zoidberg... Gnuk Gnuk Gnuk...
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Post by Favorite15 on Aug 15, 2008 10:36:19 GMT -5
I know, but the quote tags where yours.
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Post by icemitten on Aug 16, 2008 13:13:04 GMT -5
------------------------- Are you saying dark matter could be "unreadable bits of information"? I can't think of a way to salvage "universal waste". .. I'm just a LANGUAGE student, not a scientist I just have my own ideas and in MY logic, this could very well be it. I mean, String Theory suggests that there's a thingie called a "Gravaton" which would be able to leave our plane.. ..so what if there are other kind of "gravatons" on the other planes which can also leave their plane and come into ours?
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Post by Favorite15 on Aug 16, 2008 18:35:57 GMT -5
.. I'm just a LANGUAGE student, not a scientist I just have my own ideas and in MY logic, this could very well be it. I mean, String Theory suggests that there's a thingie called a "Gravaton" which would be able to leave our plane.. ..so what if there are other kind of "gravatons" on the other planes which can also leave their plane and come into ours? I'm not a scientist either. Gravatons!? Sounds like something out of a sci-fi movie. Not to go off topic, but this idea comes from the UFO community: The UFO's that just 'disappear' into thin air, not the ones that fly off at high speeds, deploy a sort of greenish gas that allows them to shift into another 'plane'. It is the same concept as the movie Mist. (spoiler alert, maybe ): The mist allows creatures from another dimension to cross offer. That was what I noticed first about the movie, it uses the same idea of using a gas to travel between dimensions.
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Post by icemitten on Aug 17, 2008 6:33:26 GMT -5
uh a gravaton is like a particle that represents the force of gravity. String theory is all about planes and tiny strands of energy that make up everything in the universe. Most strings are 2-ended, with both ends "glued" to our plane. A gravaton, however, is a loop, with no ends attached to our plane. It's free to leave. They even suggest that in the far-off future we might be able to use these gravatons to communicate with other planes..
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Post by Favorite15 on Aug 18, 2008 22:18:47 GMT -5
What binds the energy into strings?
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