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Post by syborg on Feb 22, 2005 11:45:23 GMT -5
Connor the future hero who stood up against the machines, about whom the Terminator movies have been about - is to prevent him from being born or to kill when he is still a child and finally when he is a young man. Connor is the son of Reese who is from the future and Sarah Connor in the past. Connor is gifted, rathrer he is a mutant - his life a temporal anamoly. He would be able to move back and forth in time between possible futures and possible pasts. The Terminator movies not only involve killer cyborgs but also time travel. So Connor is a unique individual he can die in one possible future and be alive in another. SkyNet's ability to send back cyborgs to kill Connor could have developed by tapping into Connor's unusual abilities and thus sending killer cyborgs into the past or one of the possible pasts. Connor does not know his complete potential until later when he starts altering time to his will and make SkyNet unhappen eventually and there no more Terminators.
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Post by ConqueringWolf on Feb 22, 2005 22:31:36 GMT -5
interesting possibility.....I think that is probably a little more time travel than the film makers would like to do though....I am just hoping they finallly make one more movie and have the final war take place...
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Post by Nightcrawler on Feb 22, 2005 23:38:40 GMT -5
Whatever they do, I hope they do it right! They did very good with the previous three Terminator flicks, but if they do anymore, they need to stick to the same kind of quality that they put into the first three.
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Post by Mutantlavalamp on Feb 23, 2005 22:38:13 GMT -5
I didn't really like that 3rd one much. It was OK though,
A 4th one in the future though? Sounds VERY GOOD to me ;D
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Post by xkamelx on Feb 25, 2005 15:23:51 GMT -5
I don't think John Conner could have ever, or can stop Skynet from happening. If he could have, and if they were going to, then no Terminator would have ever been sent back to kill him, or his mother, for if they stopped it, then there would have been no skynet in the future to send a Terminator back. This is basically proven at the end of T3, when we see Judgment Day taking place from a space view (which I loved by the way). Sarah Conner spent the latter half of her life, and John spent half of his life worrying about the future, and trying to come up with ways to stop it, only to fail, and fail miserably. "There is no fate but what we make" was wrong, unfortunatly for them.
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Post by syborg on Feb 27, 2005 11:45:55 GMT -5
I don't think John Conner could have ever, or can stop Skynet from happening. If he could have, and if they were going to, then no Terminator would have ever been sent back to kill him, or his mother, for if they stopped it, then there would have been no skynet in the future to send a Terminator back. This is basically proven at the end of T3, when we see Judgment Day taking place from a space view (which I loved by the way). Sarah Conner spent the latter half of her life, and John spent half of his life worrying about the future, and trying to come up with ways to stop it, only to fail, and fail miserably. "There is no fate but what we make" was wrong, unfortunatly for them. Consider this the Terminators were sent at different ages of of Connor, every time a Terminator failed - that future was altered. The second time again the future was changed, In the third movie - the Terminators fail again although but Skynet is found to be a computer virus which humans are responsible for setting loose. There is a deeper aspect to this story which has not been explored, why was this done? If SkyNet actions were inevitable then those who created did so for some other reason - they obviously had a backup plan, machines able to survive in a hazardous environment, basic robots which kill off the survivors, in the end Connor and his girl are stuck in deep cavern. If there is a fourth movie, then Connor will begin to display time and space bending powers immediately. In all three movies - the Terminators came from a different future, when the Terminator was killed off - the furture was changed. When Connor cannot be killed he is gifted, he is deciding his own fate by controlling the past. He is a character straight out 'Matrix' He would be fighting SkyNet the virus in a virtual reality eventually. The last movie was a part of that virtual reality. Each Terminator came from a different future.
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Post by xkamelx on Feb 27, 2005 14:52:15 GMT -5
I may be a little bit confused. Are you saying that Conner would be able to control space and time the same way Donnie Darko did? Welcome to Temporal Reality, by the way.
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Post by syborg on Feb 28, 2005 11:26:08 GMT -5
I may be a little bit confused. Are you saying that Conner would be able to control space and time the same way Donnie Darko did? Welcome to Temporal Reality, by the way. It certainly looks that way. If it was not, then Connor would have been killed in the third movie. The fact he survived only means that he was not meant to die. The weird part is why is SkyNet still trying to kill Connor when in one possible future he is supposed to be dead and the cyborg who has come to protect Connor and his wife to be is portecting him and his wife, but answering to Connor's wife's commands. Which only goes to show that SkyNet knows the potential the danger Connor is, he may been killed in one possible future but still poses a threat. Incidentally I do not know who this Darko character is.
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Post by xkamelx on Mar 6, 2005 18:01:48 GMT -5
It certainly looks that way. If it was not, then Connor would have been killed in the third movie. The fact he survived only means that he was not meant to die. The weird part is why is SkyNet still trying to kill Connor when in one possible future he is supposed to be dead and the cyborg who has come to protect Connor and his wife to be is portecting him and his wife, but answering to Connor's wife's commands. Which only goes to show that SkyNet knows the potential the danger Connor is, he may been killed in one possible future but still poses a threat. Incidentally I do not know who this Darko character is. The way I see it, Johjn Conner had to survive those Terminator attacks, for if he didn't it would cause a Paradox. If any of the three Termonators sent back and succeeded in their mission, then them existing in the past would be a paradox since Conner would not be alive in the future for Skynet to send a Terminator back to kill. I don't think Skynet thought things all the way through, uless it realized that it's present would change if they succeeded, to the point where they would have no memory of Conner to begin with.
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Post by zdnexus on Jan 19, 2007 15:13:44 GMT -5
The paradox woud be that Connor would be replaced by a greater threat to SkyNet. In one possible future Connor would exist and in the other some other guy who would be many times more dangerous than Connor. However What weird idea, time travelling killer cyborgs created by a killer entity SkyNet. The movies show cyborgs travelling back in time. Then the whole story of time travel is forgotten. Is there one way back through time going in the past. Why do not good cyborgs travel into back to their own time i.e. return to the future. The bad cyborgs would have return to that time the search would be difficult. I would have expected in the third edition of the movie that the Terminator would be the same as the T-2000 with its body molding shape shifting abilities. The T-2000 would be more than a match forthe Terminatrix.
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