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Post by vold on Nov 29, 2003 23:45:53 GMT -5
yeah, & they all call it
"impossible" in those days. lol
I wish they could see their own faces in our time.
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Post by xkamelx on Nov 30, 2003 0:41:58 GMT -5
So very true!
It is amazing alone just to think about the technologies that are around in todays world, and intreguing to think of what they may come out with tomorrow.
As far as Astro physics go though, it 'does' seem that nothing can travel faster then the speed of light, thus it would take at least 4.2 lightyears to reach our nearest star system, Alpha Centuri, making the likleyhood of a future Star Trek reality impossable.
However as Deepspace9 put it, people in the 60's thought much of the Treknology was an impossability, yet it came to be, so perhaps there is some undisovered physics that will allow us to bend or 'warp' space to that we may be able to travel as fast as a glaxy class starship, which would be needed for 'true' deepspace exporation.
I think that is what fascinates me the most about Star Trek, the space exploration part, as I've always been a huge space buff. The sad truth is today governments are concerned less and less wit the space program. I do not believe man will land on Mars in my lifetime, which is such a shame. Us not exploring space will ultimatly be our end, I beleive. Imagine if Christopher Colombus had given up after his first sail to the New World had failed.
We sent the first people to the moon, and thier spacecraft's computer had LESS power then a moderan 'Thinkpad' of today. Hopefully the great speed in computer technology advancments, the space program will be 'reborn', so to speak, and we will finally reach out the the stars our race has been looking up at since we developed eyes.
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Post by DeepSPace9 on Nov 30, 2003 0:46:08 GMT -5
Some parts of Star Trek technically right now can be said to be impossible, but in 1-50 years from now, it wouldn't be.
Remember cloning was thought to be impossible, yet it can be done(so far not very successfully), yet over time it could be very successful.
Right now, Warp Speed is impossible, the technology simply does not exist. But in a few years, Warp speed may be possible.
101 years ago human flight was impossible. after the wright brothers flew, going to the moon was impossible, after 1969 going to mars was impossible.
Notice the Generational gaps? What is impossible this generation may indeed become possible next generation or two. I may not see a human land on mars, but its highly possible my 7, 5 and 2 yr olds will.
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Post by xkamelx on Nov 30, 2003 0:52:10 GMT -5
True DS9, that almost makes me wish I was unborn, and wont be born for a few more years, so that I will be alive to see all of this. Of course though, my grandson could b the first astronaught on Mars, and wish the same thing so that he could see people go to Alpha Centuri.
Who knows though, there could be a major breakthrough and we may have interstellar travel by 2020. Afterall, look at computers in 1990, and look at them today, somethings are just too hard to pedict.
~Myke
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Post by vold on Nov 30, 2003 0:54:28 GMT -5
Right now we can achieve 60% light speed, & light speed itself, but the way of travel is very crude. 60% lightspeed is our Anti-Matter engines idea. [not warp] 100% lightspeed is the laser pushing idea, but it goes 1 way only so far we haven't got anything faster then light "yet".
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Post by DeepSPace9 on Nov 30, 2003 0:58:14 GMT -5
Warp Speed has nothing to do with the speed of light.
It does what name says, it warps the fabric of space and bends it to make it appear you are going faster than you really are. I saw a special on the Science Channel and they explained it like this : Imagine you are at an airport, they have those moving beltways built into the floor that even though you are still walking at your normal speed, the belt is moving at say 10mph. Your body is still going the same speed, but your actually moving at 10mph.
Its confusing as hell.
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Post by xkamelx on Nov 30, 2003 1:02:51 GMT -5
I was unaware of 60% of LS was within our grasp.
I read similiar theroes on the web recently, and I was under the understanding that presently we have no way of contaning anti matter. If it touches normal matter then KABOOM.
The laser theroy I read too, but although it would take us to lightspeed in theory, it would have to generate like a billion gigawatts of energy (something like it, it was 300 times the power of the power presently being used on Earth)
There are ideas on warping space to travel from point A to point B, but again the power it would take to actually bend space, or create a warp field around a ship is astronomical, not to mention that a warp field around a ship would be hard to control as it would not be part of the ship.
There is another theory about using solor winds to achieve light speed, but again it would take like 2,000 years for the device to get moving that fast, which is just under the amount of time it would take us to reach Alpha Centuri, I think.
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Post by xkamelx on Nov 30, 2003 1:06:13 GMT -5
Warp Speed has nothing to do with the speed of light. It does what name says, it warps the fabric of space and bends it to make it appear you are going faster than you really are. I saw a special on the Science Channel and they explained it like this : Imagine you are at an airport, they have those moving beltways built into the floor that even though you are still walking at your normal speed, the belt is moving at say 10mph. Your body is still going the same speed, but your actually moving at 10mph. Its confusing as hell. I saw the same thing DS9. The easiest way I can explain it is what is the cloest distance from the top of a piece of paper to the bottom. Most would think a straight line, but that is not correct. The closest distance is to fold the peice of paper untill point A touches point B, then simply go right through it. So while Warp 9 is something like 40,000 times the speed of light, the starship is still moving a tad bit slower then the speed of light, and scientist do thing warping space is POSSABLE. ~Myke
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Post by DeepSPace9 on Nov 30, 2003 1:07:30 GMT -5
The one part of Warp Speed on Star Trek that actually is correct myke, is the fact that they would have to have nacells coming off the ship like they do in Star Trek.
Right now antimatter is easier to create than the fusion reactor they are trying to build for future energy use.
If they ever successfully make a fusion power plant, then all bets are off as to when the warp and faster than light travel can be done, because 1 fusion power plant could theoretically power the world, thats how much energy is possible from fusion.
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Post by xkamelx on Nov 30, 2003 1:11:25 GMT -5
While that is within reason, they will need to create something of an Inertial Damper, so eliminate the G forces while taking off into warp, or even lightspeed. For without the Inertial Dampers, Captain Picard would be commiting suicide everytime he said "Engage"
Also, even slightly under the speed of light, time begins to warp. I wonder how they will make up for that, as even though it may take 4 years to reach Alpha Centuri at the speed of light, it may be 40 years from our perspective here on Earth. thats where I start to get confused, is the time dispacment, and time warping ideas when reaching the speed of light.
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Post by Speed on Dec 16, 2003 6:39:27 GMT -5
Just great...I'm the great loner Captain Jean-Luc Picard. Why can't I be Kirk? At least then I would've been able to knock boots with one of those green slave girls...
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Post by xkamelx on Dec 16, 2003 18:50:24 GMT -5
Don't feel bad, I turned out to be Picard too, but now that I think of it, I'm alot like him, a loner with my own beliefs, the only difference between he and I is that I have a child.
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Post by darth on Mar 2, 2004 17:17:43 GMT -5
i'd say this familiar face ....(in my pic)
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Post by xkamelx on Mar 2, 2004 17:55:11 GMT -5
Hi Darth Mattus, welcome to Temporal Reality!!
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Post by Laura47 on Mar 23, 2004 0:01:54 GMT -5
Egad. I got James T. Kirk.
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