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Post by xkamelx on Jun 27, 2004 8:37:23 GMT -5
Well there are so many obviously, I probably should have started a thread as opposed to a poll. Tell us, which SW character is youre favorite? And which version is your favorite, for example the old Obi-Wan, or the young Obi-Wan, ect. Tell us which one, and why!
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Post by ConqueringWolf on Jun 27, 2004 8:38:57 GMT -5
Han solo from the first movie of course...the true brigand and renegade. Reward? how much? Heyyyy, she's cute and stuff like that. he was just perfect.
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Post by ZERO on Jun 27, 2004 18:12:40 GMT -5
Han Solo is great I love him but I still like Vader the best. Han is the best character in the movies though, but Vader is my favorite.
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Post by theartak on Jun 27, 2004 19:36:08 GMT -5
Yoda. I mean, what more perfect being than him to be one of the most powerful people in the galaxy, without even breaking 4 feet in height and never mastering basic grammar skills? Proof there is hope for even me! ;D
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Post by velaska101 on Jun 28, 2004 19:58:37 GMT -5
Chewbacca! He is big, strong, hairy, friendly, loyal...
When I think about it, this sounds like a perfect pet description!
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Post by Speed on Jun 29, 2004 2:40:42 GMT -5
VADER!!!!!!
C'MON! Who can deny the ultimate coolness of the James Earl Jones voiceovers and that frightening Black Suit? The choking with 2 little fingers and a whole lotta FORCE!
"I have you now!","The FORCE is strong with this one", and who can forget the classic, "I...am your father!"
Vader is the king of cool, and the king of the Dark side. And even though he's one evil mofo, he eventually does the right thing and bumps off the Emperor, and makes nice with the family.
What's not to like?
*Modified for crucial spelling errors*
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Post by Dillson on Aug 6, 2004 0:28:22 GMT -5
I'm going with the majority here: Han and Vader.
Han is a very complex person, and in all honesty, he would make a great Anakin. He's the perfect scoundrel. Arragant, brash and often ignorant. He's also sensitive, loyal and passionate when he is needed to be. He doesn't let anyone into his heart but his friends, but when he lets them in, he treasures them. I like his face when he says, May be force be with you, rather reluctantly and embarrasingly to Luke just before the battle of Yavin.
Vader, as Speed said, is the king of evil. And evil is cool. He is possibly the most universally evil character that ever existed, yet he was good at heart at the same time. That doesn't actually make sense, but you know what I mean. His foreboding theme tune adds to the atmosphere that surrounds him. I wouldn't like to be in a room with him. Hell, even watching a film of someone being in a room with him is unnerving. He's the ultimate dread character.
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Post by xkamelx on Aug 6, 2004 0:58:23 GMT -5
I just realized I havent voted, lol. And I had to pick Vader, for all of the reasons Dillson mentioned above. His very apperence personafies evil, much like Palpatine, but Vader seemed to be drawn to the darkside due to experiences in his life, which we can all relate to, as where Palpatine was just an evil genius who resembles Hitler alot by his actions.
It does make sence that Vader is the most universally evil character, and hasa good heart all at the same time. It shows that even the most of pure evil still has some hope in them.
And much like you Dillson, I wouldnt want to be in the same room with Vader, let alone talk to him. Rememer one og his commanders from Episode IV in the conference room, he mouthed off to the wrong person when insulting 'Lord' Vader, and he payed for it with his life, and I didnt see the Senator saying anything about it, even though he seemed to outrank Vader, lol.
By the way, what exactly was Peter Cushing's character, where did he fit into the Empire, and why did he outrank Vader?
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Post by Dillson on Aug 6, 2004 1:15:44 GMT -5
Grand Moff Tarkin gained the attention of the Emperor through his so-called 'Tarkin Doctrine' which outlines the theory rule through fear. So Palpatine decided that Tarkin would be perfect to supervise the construction of the Death Star, which was built to instill fear into the galaxy. While the Dark Side of the Force granted Palpatine astonishing and terrible powers, those abilities were not easy to use as symbols of the Empire's power. The Death Star offered a physical manifestation of the power of The Empire. Its very existence was likely to crush the spirit in the hearts of all but the most committed Rebellious planet systems. Tarkin became obsessed with The Death Star project. He linked his own desire for power to its completion. Palpatine was happy to use Tarkin's dirve for his own personal ends. Basically, Tarkin was a regular Imperial officer who had ambitions, and Palpatine saw that he could harness that to his own benefit.
I found most of that info with my Star Wars factfile that I have. It's references are all legitimate Star Wars sources of information, so it's pretty accurate.
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Post by xkamelx on Aug 6, 2004 1:30:27 GMT -5
Ahh great info, thanks for sharing it!! I like that little peice of trivia as well, it seems very realistic, as that's often how true polotics are played out. And it shows Palpatine again basically using someone for his own will, and helping out the Empire, which further strengthens my opinion that he was a genius!!
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Post by Dillson on Aug 6, 2004 19:47:18 GMT -5
I agree. It's the same with Palpatine towards Vader. He used him as best he could to eliminate his biggest threat, the Jedi. Once Luke had come finally come forth, he decided it would be best to let Luke take his father's place 'naturally'. In other words he decided that Vader was no longer any use to him because he had found more than his equal in Luke. Once Luke's hier had grown up and become powerful, he would have been the Emperor's new target.
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Post by xkamelx on Aug 7, 2004 17:41:42 GMT -5
I wonder if Luke's children would be more powerful then Luke? Qui-Gon thought Anikin was the choosen one, but maybe it was Luke, as Lukes power far surpassed Anikins. Remember, he didnt begin his training untill he was 19.
But then again, Anikin did bring balence to the Force, as was prophosized, but by killing the Jedi untill there were two sith, Papatine, and Vader, and two Jedi, Obi-Wan and Yoda. I wonder why the council never took that into account when they wanted things balenced.
It brings be to an interesting question, Mace Windu said there can only be two, a master and an apprentice, such as was Paplatine and Maul in Episode one, and in 'Return of the Jedi' Palpatine wanted Vader dead so Luke could join him.
Why could there only be two? And if Vader knew Palpatine wanted Luke to join him, how did he not know he would have to die?
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Post by Dillson on Aug 7, 2004 19:15:07 GMT -5
Well, in the ancient history of The Sith, there was always only the one apprentice simply to keep the order of The Sith secret to the rest of the galaxy. After the great hyperspace war (I think), The Sith were foiled by one of thier own. From then on, they always kept their order secret until the time had come for them to reveal themselves.
During the time of the Empire, there was only one Sith apprentice anyway (if you can call Vader an apprentice), and other than Luke or Leia, no one in the galaxy had the power to take up a position as Palpatine's apprentice. The only other choices of Yoda and Obi-Wan who were either hidden or deceased. Perhaps that's why Obi-Wan decided to give his life to aid Luke, because he knew that if Luke turned to the Dark Side, the galaxy would be doomed (unless Leia come to the forefront and confronted her power). So Obi-Wan knew that he simply had to help Luke, for he was thier Galaxy's final hope (again, other than Leia).
I think Palpatine realised there would it would be a bit too complicated to have both Vader and Luke as his apprentices. Firstly, it's against Sith tradition. Secondly, it wasn't nessecary because as long as one of them was eliminated and the other the apprentice of the Emperor, then there would be no hope for the good guys (seeing as that hope was eliminated), and thirdly the father and son thing might throw up some unexpected results. Perhaps Palpatine saw it as too much of a risk to try and have both of them under his command. Maybe he even thought that father and son could have the combined power to overthrow him.
What are everyone's thoughts?
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Post by xkamelx on Aug 7, 2004 19:58:21 GMT -5
Hmm, that does make sence, and it brought back a memory. I havent watched ROTJ since around the time Episode I was released. My wife was never a big science fiction fan, and had never seen Star Wars, so the day before it opened, I talked her into sitting down with me and watching all three of the original movies, so she would understand Episode I better.
But, it does seem to me like Vader wanted Luke to join him, and the two of them would over throw the Emperor, and rule the galaxy together, but then again Vader tells Luke on endor that he must obey his master.
I may be getting something confused here, as if he did want to overthrow Emperor Palpatine, and rule the galaxy with his son, then it would be controdicting that he would tell his son that he must obey his master. .. .
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Post by ZERO on Aug 7, 2004 20:31:35 GMT -5
I love when Solo in episode 6 is about to tackle the storm troopers, Leia stops him and says "be carefull there could be more of them" and solo just says "hey, it's me!"
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