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Post by oblivion on Jan 10, 2005 4:59:50 GMT -5
...how the U.S. acquired the Stargate? It's kinda fuzzy in my mind based on the movie and the series. The gate is dug up near the turn of the century in Egypt. Then it's in U.S. hands in 1945. Mothballed in 1969. And then installed in Cheyenne Mountain for the movie circa '93. How'd the U.S. wind up with possession?
The archaeological team that found it in Egypt appeared to be comprised of at least 3 nationalities.
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Post by valderra on Jan 10, 2005 10:36:42 GMT -5
It seems to be typical of American programmes that EVERYTHING eventually seem to end up in the US - even if they had nothing whatsoever to do with it in the first place.
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Post by oblivion on Jan 10, 2005 14:14:58 GMT -5
Maybe Indiana Jones was involved somehow...
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Post by Kapt~`'- on Jan 11, 2005 1:01:51 GMT -5
Maybe Indiana Jones was involved somehow... Could he have worn it as a hat band? ;D Kapt~`'-
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Post by oblivion on Jan 11, 2005 1:07:40 GMT -5
ROFL!
(Gonna have to break another keyboard out of cold storage...)
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Post by valderra on Jan 11, 2005 9:08:34 GMT -5
Could he have worn it as a hat band? ;D Kapt~`'- The stargate? Good grief... that hat must have been customised then. LOL
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Post by Pessimist on Jan 12, 2005 5:07:35 GMT -5
It dosn't matter any more since Anubis destroyed their gate they have the Russian's gate on loan because Russia didn't want to run the stargate programe but still wanted the technoligical rewards.
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Post by xkamelx on Jan 12, 2005 8:30:49 GMT -5
Didn't the Nazi's have the gate in WWII, then either the Soviet Union, or the Allied Forces discovered it during the war, and confiscated it? Then it was pretty much unused untill the early 90's when they discovered it's power? I am having a hard time remembering as well. By the way, Welcome to Temporal Reality, Pessimist.
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Post by valderra on Jan 12, 2005 11:35:39 GMT -5
Didn't the Nazi's have the gate in WWII, then either the Soviet Union, or the Allied Forces discovered it during the war, and confiscated it? Oh... is THAT what it's called... confiscated !! hahahahaaa
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Post by Favorite15 on Jan 14, 2005 18:00:53 GMT -5
An American archioligist (don't mind my spelling) I believe discovered it, so I guess he needed "extra" help in powering it. Of course an archioligist in that time period wouldn't have enough cash or reasources to power the stargate, the stargate requires and enormis amount of power.
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Post by valderra on Jan 15, 2005 11:14:30 GMT -5
An American archioligist (don't mind my spelling) I believe discovered it, so I guess he needed "extra" help in powering it. Of course an archioligist in that time period wouldn't have enough cash or reasources to power the stargate, the stargate requires and enormis amount of power. Yes, you are right, Catherine Langford's father, who was an American, excavated the stargate. But the fact remains that it was found in Egypt and should have stayed there...
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Post by Favorite15 on Jan 15, 2005 13:11:32 GMT -5
I personally wouldn't leave it in Egypt... I would rather have it in my own country so I could "play" with it as much as I wanted to.
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Post by oblivion on Jan 15, 2005 13:29:54 GMT -5
1945 was when Ernest Littlefield took the "first" Stargate trip in the episode "The Torment of Tantalus". He was presumed dead and I think the gate was mothballed after that accident.
I'd like to watch that episode again. I got the impression that the scientists (American) who were working with it thought it might be a weapon. So was it captured from the Nazis at the end of WWII? It's mentioned in a couple of episodes that The Russians got the Dial Home Device at the end of that war.
If so, then the Stargate was in the hands of Germany from roughly the time of discovery until 1945. They had both the gate and the DHD. I wonder if they were able to successfully operate it? (Nobody has to answer that question! Just thinking out loud).
At the time of the original dig in Egypt it was quite common for the discoveries to be taken out of Egypt. British museums are full of artifacts recovered from the Valley of the Kings. Egypt is now a lot more possessive of their archeological treasures. Which is fine with me!
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Post by valderra on Jan 15, 2005 19:04:59 GMT -5
At the time of the original dig in Egypt it was quite common for the discoveries to be taken out of Egypt. British museums are full of artifacts recovered from the Valley of the Kings. Indeed that is true. And that is why the Egyptians are now trying to get a lot of that stuff back where it belongs. And regarding WWII... I don't remember ever having heard that the Nazis had anything to do with the gate. I know that the Russians had something to do with "a" stargate - there were after all more than just the one - but never heard the Germans mentioned.
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Post by oblivion on Jan 15, 2005 19:28:36 GMT -5
In "The Tomb", it's mentioned that the Russians recovered a DHD from the Nazis at the end of WWII. It may have been mentioned in "Watergate", too. The stargate in "Watergate" is the one that was originally in the SGC. It was beamed up to Thor's ship when the replicators were destroying it. The Russians recovered it from the ocean after Thor's ship crashed.
In the episode "1969", Daniel, impersonating the son of the German archaeologist her father worked with, implies that another object (a DHD) was recovered at the site of the original dig. Catherine Langford commented that she and her father had been certain there was something else to find at the dig, that the Stargate hadn't been complete.
Sooo...I'm now wondering if I missed something about a WWII connection in the "Torment of Tantalus". There are a lot of little bits and pieces scattered about here and there.
One thing I always wondered was why the SGC didn't want the DHD that was found in Antarctica. They're a lot more convenient than a huge mainframe computer. But, they're also a lot less configurable, I guess. For instance, I'm not sure how you would block an address so it wouldn't be accidentally or purposefully dialed once you decide a particular planet or location would be a good place to avoid in the future. But it would still be nice to have one as a backup when the mainframe goes down or is inhabited by an alien creature.
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