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Post by Ember on Aug 15, 2004 18:27:39 GMT -5
I didn't think it was scary at all, but I still really liked it. Much better than Signs anyway. (in my opinion. lol)
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Post by xkamelx on Aug 16, 2004 17:58:21 GMT -5
Same with the Alien vs Predator thread, this movie has been out long enough to discuss it completly if you like, including the plot twists, the ending , ect.
I'll add a spoiler tag to the title.
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Post by ConqueringWolf on Aug 16, 2004 18:26:55 GMT -5
OK...the following are spoilers....and these are what most people didnt like about the movie...but I did....so dont read if u want to stay surprised....
Most of the movie you get the feeling they are stuck in the 1800's but when the blind girl has to go "to the city" for medicine to treat someone who is dying(her fiance) her dad tells her the truth(somewhat) about the village. and how they have costumes made up of these creatures everyone is afraid of and they use them every so often to scare people and make sure none of them want to leave. now she goes on and follows the directions they give her(her escorts abandon her) and she ends up killing the retarded boy when he escapes after stabbing her fiance and chases her down in a costume. she ends up going over a wall...and u see a jepp and a wildlife preserve guy there. he ends up getting her her meds and all but what the big polt twist is....is the founder of the city....is some filthy rich guy who is crazy...and he brought all his crazy friends with him to live on a wildlife preserve the family owns.....and no one knows they live there or even exist...and no one born in the village knows of the true story of where they are living. so its basically a bunch of crazy people living in the woods....but no one except the founders(who are crazy) know about it.
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Post by Ember on Aug 21, 2004 9:32:59 GMT -5
I saw it for the second time last night. The more I see it, the more I like it. I think it is an amazing story, even if it's not what I was expecting, and Joaquin Phoenix is an amazing actor.
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Post by valderra on Aug 22, 2004 2:54:56 GMT -5
Well, I saw the film yesterday and I must say it has quite a few loopholes. For one, the head stone right at the beginning read 1890-1898 or something like that, it was from the 1800s anyway. So you were suppose to think that this film plays a hundred years ago, which it doesn´t. Then, I find it hard to believe that modern people are able to suddenly shut themselves off from the rest of the world and live a life of complete selfsufficiency. Did anyone notice that shirt this one elder had on? With the blue and white little squares (and the tie?). That was NOT a shirt they made themselves. And I didn´t see any corn fields - they made bread so they had to have lots of corn fields and a mill and a silo to store the corn. Didn´t see anything except that cabbage patch. LOL Then, the blind girl was left by herself pretty early on in the journey when the two guys ran off. How on earth did she know the way to the town? I know she was suppose to follow the sound of the stream but I didn´t hear a stream nor did I see one AND she fell into that hole and lost her orientation, so.... Then... why wasn´t the security guy on the other side of the wall surprised to see her dressed in old-fashion clothes? And although it did say "Walker" on the car and such, it was NOT explained who was responsible for the wildlife preserve, so you had to guess what might have happened. And would YOU send your BLIND kid to town instead of going yourself if you knew what this was all about? I don´t think so... All in all, the film was full of loopholes - apart from the fact that the blind girl acted pretty much as if she really could see - running through the fields and such - and only when she stumbles over the body of her boyfriend, she suddenly has her head straight up and doesn´t actually "look down" on the body, as she has been doing throughout the film. Other than that, not a bad film. ;D
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Post by ConqueringWolf on Aug 22, 2004 9:50:19 GMT -5
AND she fell into that hole and lost her orientation, so.... she really didnt lose her orientation that much...after she fell in she pulled herself back up...so she knew she was on the front edge of the hole...then she used her stick to feel around the rest of the hole til she got around it.....not too hard to do... Then... why wasn´t the security guy on the other side of the wall surprised to see her dressed in old-fashion clothes? And although it did say "Walker" on the car and such, it was NOT explained who was responsible for the wildlife preserve, so you had to guess what might have happened. And would YOU send your BLIND kid to town instead of going yourself if you knew what this was all about? I don´t think so... and he WAS very much surprised to see her in those clothes and the fact she came from over the wall...but it was WALKER wildlife preserve...she told him her name was Walker....so..it stands to reason that he assumed she was part of the Walker family who owned the preserve....and they already knew no one had seen any of the walkers before...and that no one was allowed on the other side of the fence...plus later when his boss mentioned how the walkers had paid to ensure that no planes fly over their preserve....its not too hard to connect all the dots and see how they fit together... and the reason he didn't go was because HE was a village elder and had taken The Oath to never go back to the city...but his daughter hadnt taken the oath....it was a way for him to get around the rules which bound him...and yet still try to get the boy help.
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Post by valderra on Aug 22, 2004 17:17:14 GMT -5
AND she fell into that hole and lost her orientation, so.... she really didnt lose her orientation that much...after she fell in she pulled herself back up...so she knew she was on the front edge of the hole...then she used her stick to feel around the rest of the hole til she got around it.....not too hard to do... Then... why wasn´t the security guy on the other side of the wall surprised to see her dressed in old-fashion clothes? And although it did say "Walker" on the car and such, it was NOT explained who was responsible for the wildlife preserve, so you had to guess what might have happened. And would YOU send your BLIND kid to town instead of going yourself if you knew what this was all about? I don´t think so... and he WAS very much surprised to see her in those clothes and the fact she came from over the wall...but it was WALKER wildlife preserve...she told him her name was Walker....so..it stands to reason that he assumed she was part of the Walker family who owned the preserve....and they already knew no one had seen any of the walkers before...and that no one was allowed on the other side of the fence...plus later when his boss mentioned how the walkers had paid to ensure that no planes fly over their preserve....its not too hard to connect all the dots and see how they fit together... and the reason he didn't go was because HE was a village elder and had taken The Oath to never go back to the city...but his daughter hadnt taken the oath....it was a way for him to get around the rules which bound him...and yet still try to get the boy help. Forget about the oath... I would NOT send my blind daughter to the village. And hey... she didn´t have any money. If that security guy hadn´t helped her (and he wasn´t surprised about the way she dressed, only that she came over the wall) she would have to find a chemist to get those ingredients. And do YOU think, the shop owner would say: Oh sure madam, we will take that fob watch instead of the currency we usually take? I don´t think so. And don´t tell me the father knew that young man would be there and accept her watch and help her... And yes, I know she didn´t fall into the hole but the thing is, she was NOT familiar with the woods so she would have easily lost her way - in fact she should have not knows where to go after the 2 guys left her. After all, they were there to guide her through the woods? Why else were they there? And don´t tell me to protect her from the nasties. LOL And yes, she said her name was Walker and I did guess it had something to do with her family but I prefer if it is confirmed. Know what I mean? ;D
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Post by ConqueringWolf on Aug 22, 2004 18:24:44 GMT -5
some people are just a little too cynical for their own good LOL
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Post by valderra on Aug 23, 2004 5:13:05 GMT -5
some people are just a little too cynical for their own good LOL Errrmmmm nope... I just thought that film was full of loopholes. ;D
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Post by Musicbunny on Sept 24, 2004 9:11:20 GMT -5
I love this movie! I think it’s such a great example for M. Night’s style. But I do know that most people either hate his style or totally love it. It’s kinda like Quentin Tarantino’s films.. You either like his style or hate it.
I can see how people didn’t like it... you can’t really appreciate the movie unless you appreciate M. Night’s style. I t was a very thought provoking film at least in my opinion...and I’m a little more partial to movies about the human condition...
Signs was my favorite movie I think by far then any movie I’ve seen, this movie however can’t really compete with Signs, but was still a good flick.
Yes, I do agree there are probably loopholes in this movie, but can all be concluded or explain if really thought about.
^ this is explain by M. Night’s twist and turns he wants you to believe what the story he is telling. That is why the trailer also was misleading... so not to give the whole mystery away. He is trying to take you on a journey. It’s like when you’ve seen thrillers before.. a serial murder mystery... they don’t show you right of the bat who is doing the killing... they lead you to believe it could be different people. If it had actually said on the head stone 2000's it would have given the whole movie away and defeat the propose. [/color]
^ This is explained by, all of the elders were very well educated. There are people in this world that are completely self sufficiency... take a look at the Amish .... these people make everything and don’t rely on anyone but themselves. The shirt you are talking about I’m not sure I didn’t noticed.... but it can be explained that maybe it was his before they were secluded? Maybe you didn’t see any corn fields because they were in a different location or it wasn’t the season for it? You don’t need to have mills or silos to store corn... in colonial times they didn’t have what we know today as being mills and silos... [/color]
^ This can be explained that.. Blind people have extremely good hearing due to the lack of their sense of seeing... they hone this skill very well compared to people who have their sight.. Yes the idea could be very far fetched but not impossible....[/color]
^ Who is to say he wasn’t surprised? Just because there wasn’t a reaction shown doesn’t mean it couldn’t have crossed the guys mind... not to mention he 1st thought it was a joke.....[/color]
^Yes, you are left to assume that maybe the grandfather or walker himself was responsible for the wildlife preserve.... just means some things don’t need explaining in the movie.. it’s a given ... M .Night wanted to lead you to assume. As for letting your blind child go, one reason was because of the oath, but also keep in mind if someone else went, they would be able to see modernization and thats what they were hiding from all of the children inside the preserver.. If someone who was able to see was sent they would tell everyone and these elders whole purpose of being there would be compromised... if you also remember her father told the 2 guilds were not to go into town with her... they had to stay at the dirt road and she was to go further... due to not wanting any one else to see what was beyond it...[/color]
Well if you remember she was able to see peoples colors they would put off... not sure how to explain the colors because I’m not blind and don’t know if it ever would be possible to see something given off of people.. But the reason she didn’t look down to see her boyfriend was due to his color fading because his life was fading....[/color] ;D
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Post by Orpheus on Dec 12, 2004 1:53:14 GMT -5
I went and saw The Village today and I give it about a B rating. Typical of his last movie Signs it is very heavy in the drama and is a bit slow.....but...is still very good. There are several shocking twists in the movie that you never ever see coming....especially near the end of the movie. If you are willing to sit and pay attention to a good movie and want to think a bit....then go watch it....you will like it....just don;t go expecting something overly scary or adventurous.... That describes my ideal movie = ) Yes I loved this film. I am a big M Night fan. This movie, or Unbreakable would be my favorite of his. I truely believe that M Night is the next Alfred Hitchcock.
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Post by Orpheus on Dec 12, 2004 1:57:27 GMT -5
Errrmmmm nope... I just thought that film was full of loopholes. ;D I was going to take the time to type out the explainations for your 'loopholes' but I noticed that two other people already did. = )
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Post by xkamelx on Jan 2, 2005 21:00:30 GMT -5
I finally saw this movie, and I enjoyed it. It was kind of what I thought it was going to be. Remeber with M Night Shamalyn, he likes to make you use your imagination, as opposed to showing you everything.
While I didnt guess the trick ending, it was what I expected. I thought the swerve was going to be those people manifested those creatures into real life, from thier mind, line in the Sphere, but alas that wasn't the case.
And that blind girls dad was the owner of Walker security that protected the reserve, no doubt about it. That is the only plausible explination to explain how they have survived out there for so long, undisturbed.
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