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Post by timewarp on Dec 2, 2004 15:19:52 GMT -5
The Universe is endless. There must be life out there. Maybe more advanced than us or maybe less. But is not possible for us to be alone. I am 100% sure there are aliens. Exactly! If we actually found them, then Bush would just launch a nuke, and then see if they have any oil, lol.
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ConqueringWolf
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Post by ConqueringWolf on Dec 2, 2004 22:02:54 GMT -5
Exactly! If we actually found them, then Bush would just launch a nuke, and then see if they have any oil, lol. Hmmmm...that actually sounds about right.....don't forget he would occupy their homeworld also...lol
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DJ88FAN
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Post by DJ88FAN on Dec 30, 2004 10:39:53 GMT -5
I think there is some relation to why they are here and resources. They 'disect' humans in abductions, around my area UFO's have been spotted where old mines were. My parents actually saw two cigar shaped ones, one long ways the other facing it like a T. To close to be planes/helicopters. They drove through trees and stopped to see when they cleared it, and both were gone.
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oblivion
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Post by oblivion on Jan 4, 2005 4:41:52 GMT -5
I absolutely believe there is life out there. Life on planets, life in interplanetary space, even life in the vasty deeps between stars. I also believe a HUGE number of life-forms are sentient and a percentage of them have achieved space travel.
I'm not sure the laws of physics will support hyperspace and warp speeds etc. But wormholes, superstrings, etc are plausible ways to slide up the on-ramp to the interstellar highways.
How far are we away from joining the "commute"? A long way I'm afraid. So many problems, so much strife, etc. on this planet. Just the religious wars and differences alone consume so much effort, energy and resources, and present insurmountable challenges to true cooperation.
The short-cut would be first contact by a space-faring species. I'm afraid we probably look like we need to bake a few more millenia before we're ready though. I HOPE looks are deceiving.
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Post by Vega on Jan 4, 2005 22:37:59 GMT -5
SETI Institute: "All we know for sure is that the sky is not littered with powerful microwave transmitters."
Our Sun is not a first-generation star. All first-generation stars are either very small and dim, or have exploded, or have burned out. This first generation synthesized the heavy elements needed to create planets and lifeforms. Later generations of stars, including our Sun, have been born and have died or will die in their turn.
Our galaxy is more than 10 billion years old. Intelligent life and technological societies may have arisen and died out many times during this ten billion years. Assuming that an intelligent species survives for ten million years, that means that only 0.1% of all societies that have arisen during the history of our galaxy are in existence now.
As of 2004, there is no definite evidence of extraterrestrial life. However examination of meteors from Antarctica which are presumed to have originated from the planet Mars have provided what some scientists believe to be microfossils of extraterrestrial life, although that interpretation of the evidence is still controversial. In 2004, the spectral signature of methane was detected in the Martian atmosphere by both Earth-based telescopes as well as by the Mars Express probe.
So do I think that there are other beings out there? Yes. Do I believe I will ever see them in my lifetime? Only through SCIFI!!
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oblivion
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Post by oblivion on Jan 17, 2005 2:04:06 GMT -5
My understanding (which may be dated) is that early generation stars would be less likely to support "life" due to the much lower concentration of heavier atoms. When stars fall off the mainline sequence and die in their various ways (some spectacular, some not) the incredible crushing force of gravity in the collapsing star is what CREATES atoms more complex than hydrogen and helium.
So, the older the galaxy, the greater the quantity of heavier atoms, and the greater likelihood of complex molecules, including carbon-based ones. So, as a galaxy ages, the likelihood of sentient life increases.
Imagine truly being the first sentient species in a galaxy. If that species is unsuccessful in committing mass suicide via ecological disaster or war, and manages to develop interstellar travel, how incredibly lonely and sad to search high and low and find NOTHING resembling a peer.
TNG played with this concept in one episode. So have a number of SF writers over the years.
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lospud
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Post by lospud on Mar 11, 2005 18:24:52 GMT -5
There just has to be life out there considering the vast expance of the universe. I do not however believe in UFO's because the chance of lifeforms recieving one of our transmitions (might be millions of years later) and comming to visit (while humans still exist) are mimiscule
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Post by syborg on Apr 24, 2005 11:22:20 GMT -5
One in nine planets in the solar system has life as we know it. The chance of discovering stars which are exactly the same size as our sun is not out of the realm of the impossible. It is finding planets orbiting around them which is hard for astronomers. There could be planets orbiting such stars the same distance as Earth it could even water. The first task is to find planets, then find those planets which can support life. Then there is the issue finding inttelligent life. The Universe has been around for billions of years. There could be planets just like the Earth long before Earth even existed, Intelligent life forms would be way ahead of us in terms of technology. My personal view is that travelling in space in giant metallic objects is not a viable. Mainly because it is too expensive to construct such things and send them aimlessly into the voic. The most practical means of reaching places is teleportation. People and things could reach destinations at the speed of light or perhaps faster. The ships will not be able to support life or have artificial gravity, they will drop boosters on the way to enable those intelligent beings to travel great distances and eventually materialise on any planet. -----
However there is one thing which proves that there we are alone - all intelligent life forms some time in their existence would have used and radio and television, how is it that their transmissions never reached us?
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Post by timewarp on Apr 24, 2005 19:34:05 GMT -5
One in nine planets in the solar system has life as we know it. The chance of discovering stars which are exactly the same size as our sun is not out of the realm of the impossible. It is finding planets orbiting around them which is hard for astronomers. There could be planets orbiting such stars the same distance as Earth it could even water. The first task is to find planets, then find those planets which can support life. Then there is the issue finding inttelligent life. The Universe has been around for billions of years. There could be planets just like the Earth long before Earth even existed, Intelligent life forms would be way ahead of us in terms of technology. My personal view is that travelling in space in giant metallic objects is not a viable. Mainly because it is too expensive to construct such things and send them aimlessly into the voic. The most practical means of reaching places is teleportation. People and things could reach destinations at the speed of light or perhaps faster. The ships will not be able to support life or have artificial gravity, they will drop boosters on the way to enable those intelligent beings to travel great distances and eventually materialise on any planet. ----- However there is one thing which proves that there we are alone - all intelligent life forms some time in their existence would have used and radio and television, how is it that their transmissions never reached us? Why would they have used radio or TV? Or what if they are too far away to emit a strong enough signal? We can't even make a cell phone work inside walmart.
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Post by shadowcat101 on Apr 25, 2005 15:48:53 GMT -5
Maybe they have already sent a signal back, and are waiting for a reply other than the weather report in England. I mean we are sending so much crap out there how would someone really know what a real "Hello, is there any body out there?" was with all the other stuff were sending out.
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Post by Bob Brown on May 2, 2005 0:48:14 GMT -5
Nah, I dont think that we are alone. I find it funny that the amount of stars and galaxys that there are, that we would be the only ones.
I dont know why when every one thinks of aleins, that they think about space ships and lazer guns etc. What if we are the most advanced speceies? Out at my deer lease, you can see a lot of stars. It is crazy, because I live in a big city and my deer lease is in the middle of no where. Every night we go sit out and just stare at the stars for hours. I often wonder if some one is staring back.
If we found out that there was other life out there, I am shure a lot of people would go crazy.
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syborg
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Post by syborg on May 21, 2005 10:45:52 GMT -5
If any one saw the move 'Contact' Hitler's TV transmission in the 1936 Berlin Olympics were shown being sent back. The signal travelled 50 light years away and was received and sent back, this could happen, provided the signal did not degrade. A civilisation which had advanced or was annhilated in a nuclear war, may have had used radio and TV at one point in the period of their technological development. Many of those signals would be travelling in space - not with the intention to contact anyone at all. It may not be difficult to pick up such signals that is there is appropiate equipment to pick them. We may not be able to recognise anything, because aliens would be entirely different from us in terms of language and appearance.
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lightleader
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Post by lightleader on Mar 23, 2006 18:09:49 GMT -5
You know, people always go right from whats in the movies. There may not be aliens out there like WE picture them, the little green or gray men that take us ito space and rip us open.
But there is defintly life out there, just recently they discovered a gyser launching water into space on one of saturns moons, and what do you think is inside that moon. BACTERIA, DUH!!!
Also, there have been reported small gassy creature-like things floating around some moons of the planets in our system, life? I think so.
Again, maybe its much, much more simple that the picture we are painting.
But thats just my opinion.
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acidsoul
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Post by acidsoul on Mar 24, 2006 7:16:52 GMT -5
finding an alian race would be sweet
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Post by rowdy75 on Jul 1, 2006 10:54:17 GMT -5
Do I believe in Aliens? Yes, otherwise it's a lot of space for nothing. Do I believe we've been visited? no. I remember reading some time ago a theory on 2nd or 3rd generation solar systems which made a fair bit of sense. The basic outcome is life out there is more or less about the same level as us. Anyway that's the theory I suscribe to now.
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